The Annual HCIB WSU Future

[eeshocker]

I hold HCIB responsible for a lot, and I think the rest of your list is valid, but I have a hard time blaming him entirely for poor execution. An argument can be made that turnovers can be improved through coaching, but some of the turnovers are just low BBIQ plays.

I would agree with you if the coach made the players accountable for poor execution and turnovers. I see very little coaching going on during the game in that regard.

[Ashockalypse]

The IQ of the team is a reflection of the accountability which the players are held to by the Coach. There is not a culture of accountability. That is not what a players coach cultivates.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

I would agree with you if the coach made the players accountable for poor execution and turnovers. I see very little coaching going on during the game in that regard.

Yeah I also think there is a lack of accountability. However, accountability is difficult when your bench is as weak as ours (which is not on the players). As I said before, I think it was a major mistake for HCIB to leave the bench as thin as it is. We have three scholarship guys (Jenkins, Ricks, Abidde) who don't play.

[rjl]

Okay, I may lack college level writing skills, no argument there. I am more interested
in responses to content and points made. I do go a little long sometimes and for that
I apologize.

Sorry man. Just giving you ****. I value your contributions, as well as most others'.

[rjl]

https://twitter.com/JeffreyParson/st...Bac-pHCFw&s=19

This "told ya so" stuff is a bit misguided.

I think a few prospective coaches had already turned us down during the season. And I think a lot more would have had reservations about interviewing at a team that wasn't interested in hiring the interim coach who happened to win the regular season championship and coach of the year honors. I think we would have looked like colossal assholes not hiring IB after last season. Maybe we could have used our postseason performance as an "out," but that's a stretch.

I think we were pretty much locked in to the point where IB was the best option because he became the only option, save someone with ties to the program like Jans.

It's tough to look back and figure out what was working for us last year under IB that is not working for us this year. We had Gilbert and Wade. Wade gave us a pretty good 4 and Gilbert was a true PG. We also had some pretty fortunate covid-forfeits.

Perhaps a first warning sign is that we did not retain Wade and Gilbert for this year. Not sure how much of that is really on IB; those two came to play for Marshall and Marshall's departure came too close to the season for them to go anywhere else.

If I'm being honest with myself, I would be astonished if IB was not here for this year and next year, at least. Unless WSU gets a bucket of money that will continue to pay Marshall's settlement, pay the remainder of IB's contract, and drop $3m per year on a new contract, we all better hope things get better with what we got.

[asiseeit]

Still trying to decide which of my teams choked the worst this weekend

[mattdalt]

This "told ya so" stuff is a bit misguided.

I think a few prospective coaches had already turned us down during the season. And I think a lot more would have had reservations about interviewing at a team that wasn't interested in hiring the interim coach who happened to win the regular season championship and coach of the year honors. I think we would have looked like colossal assholes not hiring IB after last season. Maybe we could have used our postseason performance as an "out," but that's a stretch.

I think we were pretty much locked in to the point where IB was the best option because he became the only option, save someone with ties to the program like Jans.

It's tough to look back and figure out what was working for us last year under IB that is not working for us this year. We had Gilbert and Wade. Wade gave us a pretty good 4 and Gilbert was a true PG. We also had some pretty fortunate covid-forfeits.

Perhaps a first warning sign is that we did not retain Wade and Gilbert for this year. Not sure how much of that is really on IB; those two came to play for Marshall and Marshall's departure came too close to the season for them to go anywhere else.

If I'm being honest with myself, I would be astonished if IB was not here for this year and next year, at least. Unless WSU gets a bucket of money that will continue to pay Marshall's settlement, pay the remainder of IB's contract, and drop $3m per year on a new contract, we all better hope things get better with what we got.

What "worked" for IB last year was a statistically fluky number of wins. We won an inordinate number of very tight games. What is not working this year is that we are regressing to the mean, and losing our fair share of those close games.

[rjl]

Who recruited the low IQ players?

The bulk of the team are Marshall recruits. Of players getting any playing time, Grant, Pleasant, and Pohto are IB recruits.

What worries me more about who signed who is the lack of player development. From last year, the only improvements I've seen are Udeze's free throws. Others have stagnated or regressed. Our offense isn't doing much to light fires, either.

[pinstripers]

I think a few prospective coaches had already turned us down during the season.

Why do you think that? Can you name names?

[Maizerunner08]

Between this debacle and the Chiefs, I guess I’m go Team USA now .

[BostonWu]

It won't take 3M to bring in the right coach. How much is that guy making down in Los Cruces?

[Kung Wu]

Between this debacle and the Chiefs, I guess I’m go Team USA now .

I'm too scared to cheer for them.

[Ashockalypse]

Tick, tick, tick.

Absolutely imperative that Boatramp is relieved of his duties in June.

Agreed, you snooze you lose.

[ShockerFever]

The bulk of the team are Marshall recruits. Of players getting any playing time, Grant, Pleasant, and Pohto are IB recruits.

What worries me more about who signed who is the lack of player development. From last year, the only improvements I've seen are Udeze's free throws. Others have stagnated or regressed. Our offense isn't doing much to light fires, either.

Who were the assistant coaches recruiting with Marshall?

[IndianaShocker]

Still trying to decide which of my teams choked the worst this weekend

Not my bengals