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  • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post

    What legitimate data do you base this on?
    No thanks. I’d rather sit through a seasons worth of KU football games than engage in that conversation with you.

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    • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

      No thanks. I’d rather sit through a seasons worth of KU football games than engage in that conversation with you.
      Figured as much...

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      • Originally posted by Singeril View Post
        Latest news I heard on campus…yes, the masks are required for the fans (we knew this yesterday). There will not be social distancing in the stands since the Biden mandate does not include actual distances. Also, there are many students who aren’t thrilled about what they are hearing from their friends at other KBOR schools…at those schools, at least in some departments, nothing has really changed from last week. The emphasis is on the vaccination…not on the masks. WSU has gone WAY over on this issue in comparison to K-State and that other large school located in Lawrence.
        Don’t they have the same “new” masking policy as Wichita State? Or are you telling me it’s being enforced differently? I am interested in the answer to this question.

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        • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post

          Over 2/3 of those eligible have received at least one dose. What is "good enough"? Because I have news for you, we will NEVER get to 90+ percent.
          A doctor on the local news (I think from Wesley) said that he thought we shouldn't let our guard down right now, but our case and ICU numbers are going down, and we may have reached herd immunity if you count those who have had Covid. I imagine that there may be a variant possibility, but this is pretty much what Kung Wu said on here several weeks ago. Remember "Normal November"?

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          • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

            A doctor on the local news (I think from Wesley) said that he thought we shouldn't let our guard down right now, but our case and ICU numbers are going down, and we may have reached herd immunity if you count those who have had Covid. I imagine that there may be a variant possibility, but this is pretty much what Kung Wu said on here several weeks ago. Remember "Normal November"?
            Which means, following their logic, KBOR will decrease capacity in the arena here soon.

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            • Originally posted by Singeril View Post
              Latest news I heard on campus…yes, the masks are required for the fans (we knew this yesterday). There will not be social distancing in the stands since the Biden mandate does not include actual distances. Also, there are many students who aren’t thrilled about what they are hearing from their friends at other KBOR schools…at those schools, at least in some departments, nothing has really changed from last week. The emphasis is on the vaccination…not on the masks. WSU has gone WAY over on this issue in comparison to K-State and that other large school located in Lawrence.
              That is not correct.

              It's true that KU and KSU didn't include masking information in their communication about the order -- but that's because they already had mask mandates for all indoor spaces in effect. WSU's policy was limited to classrooms and laboratories and had to be extended to all indoor spaces.

              Also -- the order did not apply to "all KBOR schools," only to the three research institutions in the system.
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              • KWCH did a story on the policy - see https://www.kwch.com/2021/10/25/mask...de-koch-arena/ for the full story and video.

                Also, here's a link to their story regarding possible herd immunity in Kansas - https://www.kwch.com/2021/10/26/doct...herd-immunity/
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                • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

                  Bless you for being so willing to sacrifice so much to save lives.

                  Personally, even though I would prefer not to, I would rather just make the smaller sacrifice of wearing a mask to games this year if that’s what is required.
                  You fail to answer any questions when confronted.

                  Again, why are covid deaths more important?
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                  • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                    You fail to answer any questions when confronted.

                    Again, why are covid deaths more important?
                    Nobody said they were as far as I know so I’m not sure why you’re asking that question.

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                    • A year from now when all of our "vaccinations" have worn off and a new variant that is immune to the current "vaccine" will be the latest news. Big pharma could do more to develop an actual vaccine that lasts so we don't have to keep going to the trough every year. Until there is an actual vaccine we will keep repeating this cycle, I'm afraid, and less and less people will keep going back for another dose.

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                      • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

                        Nobody said they were as far as I know so I’m not sure why you’re asking that question.
                        "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                        • I'm hearing (somewhat) encouraging discussions ongoing.

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                          • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                            A doctor on the local news (I think from Wesley) said that he thought we shouldn't let our guard down right now, but our case and ICU numbers are going down, and we may have reached herd immunity if you count those who have had Covid. I imagine that there may be a variant possibility, but this is pretty much what Kung Wu said on here several weeks ago. Remember "Normal November"?
                            Great Britain has a new variant called "Delta Plus" - we must be vigilant and take all precautions. GB is having a surge and their country is almost 100% vaccinated. If WSU is serious about the health and welfare of it's players and the fans, they really need to implement social distancing not only in the stands, but in the concession lines and restrooms. Anything less is just "optics" and "virtue signalling".

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                            • While variants won't allow the pandemic to go to zero, immunities from the virus (both covid and the vaccine) have been built up, and they seem to be muting the disease from high hospital rates, and people going to the ICU in high quantities.

                              All People need to remain educated. People with risk factors (age, immuno-compromised factors, etc.) need to remain vigilant, and visit with doctors, as we all should. I'm sure that Pharma won't stop trying to improve and sell future boosters, if and when needed. However, no reason to continue to live according to the factors you listed unless the person wants to. You continue to wear masks, and maybe stay home. I personally think that adults need to be vaccinated, but won't require them. If fear makes anyone on here happier (SB maybe this includes you), then live in fear, but I won't, and WSU can require masks and distancing if they choose and I won't go to games.

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                              • Originally posted by Shockm View Post
                                If fear makes anyone on here happier (SB maybe this includes you), then live in fear, but I won't, and WSU can require masks and distancing if they choose and I won't go to games.
                                I don't live my life in fear. I have already had covid and it wasn't a big deal. I also eat right, exercise and try to stay healthy as possible. I am also vaccinated.

                                If there really is so much public health concerns about covid, then the university should implement social distancing for the games. Masking is ineffective in a packed 10,000 arena for 2 hours.

                                University requires masking and social distancing for classes. They need to be consistent or they really saying they will take optics and money over real anti-covid measures.

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