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Originally posted by SB Shock View PostRumbles of AG coming back
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To be honest, AG moving on would be the best thing for both him and the program. It would allow him to start earning money in his pro career, but it would also allow WSU to look at available options for the future. I just don't see how him staying another year benefits us or him.
His ORtg in KenPom was 93.6, meaning for every 100 possessions he was involved in, he only helped generate 93.6 points. His win shares were 1.5 this year, putting him below Samajae Haynes-Jones his senior year at 2.2. He does some nice things, and he is capable, but he has not proven to be efficient at all. It's unfortunate, but I think it's best if he moves on. And if I'm HCIB, I don't give him the option to return."In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View PostTo be honest, AG moving on would be the best thing for both him and the program. It would allow him to start earning money in his pro career, but it would also allow WSU to look at available options for the future. I just don't see how him staying another year benefits us or him.
His ORtg in KenPom was 93.6, meaning for every 100 possessions he was involved in, he only helped generate 93.6 points. His win shares were 1.5 this year, putting him below Samajae Haynes-Jones his senior year at 2.2. He does some nice things, and he is capable, but he has not proven to be efficient at all. It's unfortunate, but I think it's best if he moves on. And if I'm HCIB, I don't give him the option to return.
Now there is a bit of the chicken or the egg thing here though. We probably wont know who we can land until after AG makes his decision, so we can't base "whether we give him the option" on who we are landing.
That said, I don't think "not giving him the option" is an actual option. If he wants to come back, he will be back.
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View PostTo be honest, AG moving on would be the best thing for both him and the program. It would allow him to start earning money in his pro career, but it would also allow WSU to look at available options for the future. I just don't see how him staying another year benefits us or him.
His ORtg in KenPom was 93.6, meaning for every 100 possessions he was involved in, he only helped generate 93.6 points. His win shares were 1.5 this year, putting him below Samajae Haynes-Jones his senior year at 2.2. He does some nice things, and he is capable, but he has not proven to be efficient at all. It's unfortunate, but I think it's best if he moves on. And if I'm HCIB, I don't give him the option to return."He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!
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Originally posted by ShockerLurker View PostA team with massive turnover in players and coaching staff wins the conference and gets an at large bid. Yeah, let's run all those ****ers off.
What's a better option, a freshman or incoming transfer with multiple years of eligibility and potential or a player who has one year left and has proven to be inefficient at a very important position?"In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
We were lower in predictive metrics this year than in any other year since 2009. We won the conference championship because of an unbalanced schedule (and again, no shame in that, but let's all acknowledge reality...we didn't have to play Memphis more than once and we didn't play SMU at all, even if it was their fault). I'm not speaking to the fault of these things or the validity of our championship, but speaking to the quality of our team and the results we produced.
What's a better option, a freshman or incoming transfer with multiple years of eligibility and potential or a player who has one year left and has proven to be inefficient at a very important position?
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Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
Would you say we were better at the PG position last year or 2019-2020? I'll hang up and listen...
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Jamarius was better in Box Plus/Minus (4.3 to 2.5) and Sherfield was 2.2 in Box Plus/Minus compared to AG's 2.5. Between the two of them, they averaged +3.25 BPM compared to AG's +2.5.
So yes, our point guard position was better last season."In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View PostTo be honest, AG moving on would be the best thing for both him and the program. It would allow him to start earning money in his pro career, but it would also allow WSU to look at available options for the future. I just don't see how him staying another year benefits us or him.
His ORtg in KenPom was 93.6, meaning for every 100 possessions he was involved in, he only helped generate 93.6 points. His win shares were 1.5 this year, putting him below Samajae Haynes-Jones his senior year at 2.2. He does some nice things, and he is capable, but he has not proven to be efficient at all. It's unfortunate, but I think it's best if he moves on. And if I'm HCIB, I don't give him the option to return.
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