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  • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

    I hope that’s not the case. Nothing against Billy Kennedy but he would be an underwhelming hire. He would be fifth of my list at best.
    I'm with you. With all the talk about the relationship BK already has with ADDB, my gut is he will just hire his buddy. Just don't trust Boatright as far as I can throw him. Personally, my list of top 5 candidates are:

    1. Jans
    2. Jans
    3. Jans
    4. Jans
    5. Jans

    And if Jans doesn't want the job, I would go after Jans.

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    • Originally posted by Shockadaisical View Post

      You are correct. I was thinking about the year before.
      I was kind of thinking that what you might have meant. They were 8-11 and then went 14-4 in 2019. And I can see your argument for that possibly happening.

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      • No chance Billy stays and takes the job from IB. None.
        The Assman

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        • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
          I’m extremely nervous that Darron Boatright is still in the position to make the next coaching move.

          I still am finding it hard to comprehend why he is still employed. Nevermind his numerous other shortcomings, I find it hard to believe he knew nothing about the Marshall stuff the entire time. And if that’s true, why is he employed?
          Good question.

          My guess with a interim president, the decision was made that it would be very difficult to have a interim basketball coach and interim athletic director. I wouldn't be surprised to see the following progression:

          1. Hire new president.
          2. New president decides he needs to have new start in athletic department, hires new AD.
          3. New AD hires new mens basketball coach.

          Only other guess would be the Boatright had a "Pearl Harbor file" that showed he had informed the AD and President of what is going on and they made the decisions.

          That is the unfortunate of WSU not releasing the investigation results - a lot of questions with very few answers.

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          • Originally posted by Aargh View Post

            The presentation was weaker than the basic argument. There were breeding programs in the USA that concentrated on producing bigger and stronger Black people from the 1600's to the 1800's. The same thing didn't happen to white people, so today there are more bigger, stronger and (incidentally) more athletic Black people than White people.

            Those bigger, stronger, faster people make better basketball players. There are big, strong, and fast White players, but they are less frequent in their ethnic population and tend to be recruited by the bluebloods.

            Cold only thought his post was controversial. I just pointed out how slavery produced today's superior Black athletes. That's going to go over great with a bunch of posters.
            My presentation and my argument were faculty level Aargh. You even offered a supporting premise when you mentioned the selective breeding that went on during the slavery era. But I will also add that there are macroevolutionary advantages in the African race as well. As primarily hunters, native Africans were built to run for capture, or escape from danger in very inhospitable climes. Our "recent" ancestors were primarily farmers having no real use for speed. We did need strength though which is why you will see a lot of naturally strong white boys in sports, albeit a few steps slower on average than their darker teammates.

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            • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
              I’m extremely nervous that Darron Boatright is still in the position to make the next coaching move.

              I still am finding it hard to comprehend why he is still employed. Nevermind his numerous other shortcomings, I find it hard to believe he knew nothing about the Marshall stuff the entire time. And if that’s true, why is he employed?
              Who's going to fire him? Wait until the next president is hired. If the KBOR does their job and secures a winner w/ vision, he will have a nose for incompetence and root it out quickly.

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              • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                Yep. Still racist.
                Not racist at all my friend, merely biological/physical anthropological science.

                Mine is a biological statement in the context of physical performance.

                Make no mistake, I observed and rejected the argument you are attempting to make before it even formed in your head. I don't get bogged down in PC platitudes or semantics. I remain wrapped in the warm blanket of logic and reason. Everything else is just noise and human weakness to me.

                Carry on.

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                • I doubt a hire of the magnitude is going to be completely up to DB

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                  • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                    Good question.

                    My guess with a interim president, the decision was made that it would be very difficult to have a interim basketball coach and interim athletic director. I wouldn't be surprised to see the following progression:

                    1. Hire new president.
                    2. New president decides he needs to have new start in athletic department, hires new AD.
                    3. New AD hires new mens basketball coach.

                    Only other guess would be the Boatright had a "Pearl Harbor file" that showed he had informed the AD and President of what is going on and they made the decisions.

                    That is the unfortunate of WSU not releasing the investigation results - a lot of questions with very few answers.
                    Just some FWIW stuff:

                    - Boatright's current contract expires on June 30, 2022, so basically 18.5 months from now. There's always the chance the university will let it expire and not renew it vs going through the trouble of firing him. The current contract is an extension which started on July 1, 2019, and the extension wasn't announced until February 2019.

                    - The current contract can be found at https://openrecords.wichita.edu/view...log/entry/144/ and there is a paragraph (#8) that talks about requirements for termination. It's followed by another paragraph - #9 - that talks about penalties for resignation. If Boatright resigns with more than 12 months to go on his contract, he owes 12 months worth of pay as liquidated damages. If fewer than 12 months remain, he pays a prorated amount. It does say though if the President of WSU changes, and Boatright resigns, any amount would be waived. Interestingly, at the time of the renewal, Rick Muma, was acting president at the time due to Dr. Bardo's illness and was the one who signed the extension as such.

                    - when Boatright was in the athletic department at Murray State, Billy Kennedy was head coach of the basketball team and Steve Prohm was an assistant. Not saying this is going to happen, but it wouldn't be surprising that if Boatright stayed on, that maybe Prohm became head coach and Kennedy stayed on as an assistant due to the connections of all involved.
                    Not responsible for damage from posts that sail over the reader's head.

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                    • Originally posted by Ted Lasso's Neighbor View Post
                      but it wouldn't be surprising that if Boatright stayed on, that maybe Prohm became head coach and Kennedy stayed on as an assistant due to the connections of all involved.
                      That’s more likely to me then IB staying HC or Billy taking it, if not offered to IB.

                      Still unlikely, but I can see the logic.
                      The Assman

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                        1. White people are on average taller, not shorter than Black people
                        2. Most of the slaves came from agrarian West Africa, not hunter-gatherer dominated Southern Africa
                        3. If physiology was the only factor in athletics, Black people would dominate high jump just as much as basketball but only 2 Black men and 3 Black women have logged a top 25 attempt

                        Assumption isn't science, and this board isn't the place for racial stereotypes. One would think that we would remember that our best and brightest example in the NBA is a black player that isn't a big or explosive athlete and his compatriot was a white guy with the same wingspan as Dwayne Wade and a penchant for chase-down blocks. Buying into stereotypes does no one any good and puts egg on all of our faces.

                        On more relevant topics, I cannot imagine Kennedy even being a candidate for the position and I do think bringing in Ron or at least considering him would bring good will from at least the small-time donors.

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                        • Some of the suggestions I'm seeing here are making me more fond of consideration of Griffin. Instant recruiting.ability.
                          The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                          We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                          • Rickey Henderson holds the MLB career stolen base record with 1,406.[3] He is the only MLB player to have reached the 1,000 stolen bases milestone in his career. Following Henderson is Lou Brock with 938 stolen bases;[3]Billy Hamilton is third on the all-time steals listing. His number of career steals varies with different sources, but all sources hold his career steals placing him in third on the list before Ty Cobb (897), Tim Raines (808), Vince Coleman (752),

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                            • Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                              Some of the suggestions I'm seeing here are making me more fond of consideration of Griffin. Instant recruiting.ability.
                              Afraid we would have another Penny type team, except one without 4 and 5 stars. Can't imagine how bad penny would be without the Berger Boy type players.

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                              • Originally posted by Aargh View Post

                                The presentation was weaker than the basic argument. There were breeding programs in the USA that concentrated on producing bigger and stronger Black people from the 1600's to the 1800's. The same thing didn't happen to white people, so today there are more bigger, stronger and (incidentally) more athletic Black people than White people.

                                Those bigger, stronger, faster people make better basketball players. There are big, strong, and fast White players, but they are less frequent in their ethnic population and tend to be recruited by the bluebloods.

                                Cold only thought his post was controversial. I just pointed out how slavery produced today's superior Black athletes. That's going to go over great with a bunch of posters.
                                Were there any other qualities "bred" into the population? Timidity? Compliance? Empathy? Kindness? Just curious if your "breeding program" only included strength and speed. Do you have the complete "breeding program" road map? Or is this just conjecture on your part?

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