Coach Gregg Marshall Investigation

[Atxshoxfan]

Sorry guys! I'm just a little hostile. Losing a president and a coach who both I admired in the manner of weeks, both do to BS is just a little depressing.
i will stop posting untill the games begin.

[Shock Top]

Sorry guys! I'm just a little hostile. Losing a president and a coach who both I admired in the manner of weeks, both do to BS is just a little depressing.
i will stop posting untill the games begin.

Losing months of our lives, lost income, watching cities burn to the ground, and other 2020isms don’t help either.

[Atxshoxfan]

Never mind, I'm too po'ed about things to be posting on this fine site right now.

[AndShock]

Originally posted by Rocky Mountain Shock View Post

Really? Does everything have to be political? Does everything have to be the liberal's fault?

... Absolutely not. Everything has been Trump's fault for the last 4 years. Ask any media person or liberal. Dems have helped empower ANTIFA and BLM while teaching kids their liberal BS. They have manufactured crimes to rid us of our president while tearing down any part of history that they don't like.
They have created this woke movement and are now just beginning to enjoy the fruits of their efforts.
Or as baraks minister once said" the chickens are coming home to roost"
Nah...we don't blame libs and will fall in line with Joe to unite behind their socialist ways.
But of course!

cmon bruh

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

If they could have fired GGG for cause and saved $$$ they would have, but they clearly couldn't

I don't know that we know that. I don't think it's so simple.

Do you fire and embarrass a guy deeply popular with some of your biggest donors? Your winningest coach in program history? The guy who is almost solely responsible for elevating the entire school to the point it gains entry into a higher level conference?

Or do you save face and let him "resign" and ride off into the sunset with a few million bucks of those donors' money in his back pocket?

I don't know. I just know it may not be as simple as you claim.

[David Rahm]

I am disgusted that Coach Gregg Marshall has been forced out as Head Basketball Coach at Wichita State University. I will tell you my reasons why below.

This is cancel culture at its finest. First Ivanka Trump was disinvited as a keynote speaker at a University graduation ceremony. This led to much satisfaction among the university community, professors and students. But this too is cancel culture. Cancel people you disagree with.

The result of this episode was the firing of President Golden. Several wealthy donors indicated that they were cancelling planned or active gifts to the University because they did not agree that certain opinions were not welcome on a college campus. Let all ideas come out and may the best ideas win. But not today, the “tolerant” Left is in fact, intolerant. You don’t see conservatives anywhere rioting, hitting people, harassing them while they are eating, suspending them from school, making them take political re-education classes, etc. All things that happen on college campuses today and all from the “tolerant” Left.

So, Gregg Marshall comes to WSU. He takes it to new heights of success. His record is the best ever at the University that has an intermittent history of success. In addition, over 14 years, he had probably 100 young men in his charge. Yes, he was a hard coach. Yes he was a demanding coach. But outsiders who saw practice said he was hard on players during practice, but after practice, he would hug them and invite them over for dinner. You saw him dance in the locker room for the guys after a big win. He was obviously tight with the vast majority of his charges. But there were some who were not happy, some who were not good enough, or not dedicated enough, to make themselves into a success.

Fred Van Vleet was not a highly recruited player. Ron Baker was not a highly recruited player. Yet they reached the pinnacle of basketball success. They did it through their hard work, and their coach’s determination, encouragement and pushing. It was a “team” effort.

But others did not like his style and left, fine. Shaq Morris, a lovable big center came into the program. He was, by all indications, talented, but not industrious. He stayed for four years, and in the culmination, in a tournament game against Bam Adabayo, a now NBA all-star, dominated him when we played Kentucky. His hard work paid off, he became a professional. But it was a more gradual, more difficult effort with and for Shaq. Everybody in Wichita loved Shaq. I loved it when an unsuspecting opposing team guard would run into his pick at midcourt and go flying. But it was difficult, Coach Marshall said there were times when they did not like each other and were surprised they continued to work together. Fred Van Vleet criticized Shaq for his lack of conditioning, his lack of commitment to himself and the program. But Shaq stayed four years and became a professional basketball player.

Apparently today, lacking the kind of discipline he obtained from Coach Marshall, he has eaten himself out of his professional career. So, now, six years later, he comes out and criticizes Coach Marshall. And this leads to the resignation of Coach Marshall. This is the payback Coach Marshall gets for sticking it out with a difficult player. This is the loyalty he gets from a four-year player. Remember, Shaq knew the deal; he knew the coach, he knew his methods, he knew what he claims happened, and still he stuck around all four years.

I am not angry at Shaq, I am disappointed in Shaq. I think he is rudderless without his Mom, and rudderless now having alienated Coach Marshall. It is a sad thing to see. I wonder what kind of reception he will receive if he comes back as an Aftershock?

Coach Marshall mentored many college young men into better basketball players and better men. But he also did much more. He was active in charities in the community. He was an ambassador for the city, one reporter quoting that he was “like a member of the Wichita Chamber of Commerce.” When we went to the Final Four, I remember Mike Kennedy saying, on the radio, that the escorts for the teams in the different cities where the stages of the tournament took place, repeatedly told him “What a fine bunch of young men you have representing your university.” This was not by accident, this was due to the leadership and family environment Coach Marshall created and fostered.

It was estimated that going to the Final Four was worth five hundred million dollars in publicity to the University and Wichita. Coach Marshall single-handedly got us into a better conference. Without his success, we would still be in the Missouri Valley. We may, yet again, return to such a conference, there is no guarantee we will be permitted to stay in the AAC if we become a second-rate team.

So, for all that Coach Marshall did for the team, the fans, the University and the City, when the first sign of trouble hits, we toss him over the side. We run him out of town. We don’t stick with him, we don’t resolve the situation and allow him to stay with certain conditions. No, we negotiate and get rid of him. This is a huge mistake at every level.

Now, we have an untested interim head coach. Coach Brown is, by all indications, a good man and a good coach. But this is an impossible situation to put a new coach into. We have lost our only recruit for next year who basically said he was coming to WSU because of Coach Marshall. Attendance will be capped this year, probably at 2,500 or so per game. This means a loss of significant ticket revenue, about 75% of it. Also lost is the corresponding contributions to SASO that a season ticketholder must pay. Also lost is the large contributions from many wealthy donors. And these dollars are lost for the foreseeable future or may be lost forever.

When we can again attend basketball games, will there be 10,535 people in the stands? Probably not. How many season ticket holders did not renew this year and how many will not next year? I believe we will be back to the 80’s and 90’s with 5,000 people in the stands if we are lucky.

If WSU is successful under Coach Brown, or whoever succeeds him, then the loss will be slightly mitigated. But if he is not successful, the loss will be exacerbated. In either event, this is going to mean the loss of millions of dollars to the Athletic Department. University enrollments rose after our Final Four appearance, and continued to prosper as the team did well. Was there a correlation? Probably, I guess we will find out over the next few years.

Colleges and universities are now conducting many classes online. The traditional university is in danger, and many of these schools are already hurting financially. This situation will get worse and there will be a paradigm shift. Many campuses will become virtual. Just like going to the doctor, why not just Zoom her? The traditional campus has already changed and is in for more, possibly radical change.

I will estimate that losing Coach Marshall will cost the University a minimum of $50 million. Lost athletic revenues and gifts; lost enrollment dollars; lost large contributors to the University; lost publicity from missing March Madness (we kind of got used to going every year and the money that came directly and indirectly from it).

But most of all, we lost our integrity. We did not stand by a man who stood by us for fourteen years under trying circumstances. He had many opportunities to go to larger schools in larger conferences for more money. But he stayed. He loved the school and the community. He was loyal. He was squired by UCLA, South Carolina, North Carolina State, Texas, Alabama and who knows who else? But he remained loyal. We had to throw him out of town, not the other way around.

So, we have tarnished the reputation of a man who did much for our community and school. Frankly, I would not choose to stay around in this set of circumstances either. He would have to be almost superhuman to put up with the mixed messages he has received and would receive from the community had he stayed.

He is set for life. He never has to work again. But he will. Believe me, large universities dying for basketball success will be after him next year. If universities are willing to put up with cheaters like Larry Brown, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and others because of the money and fame, just think how much they would covet a coach who has never had a hint of scandal about him. No tapes of him saying “he paid $100,000 for a player.” No scandal among the players. No, he ran a tight and successful ship and men like him are far and few between. We had a top ten coach, and whoever we get next, in the interim and permanently, will not be. Nor will WSU have the financial resources to seek such a candidate.

So, I have to decide if I am going to keep rooting for the Shockers. I grew up listening to the jingle “Wichita State is on the go, watch the Shockers move on in victory. Take your family to the game, cheer the Shockers onto fame, Wichita wins for you.” I grew up watching Dave Stallworth, Nate Bowman, Warren Armstrong, Gene Wylie, Bull Durham, etc. That was sixty years ago, and I have been a diehard fan ever since. Whether living in Las Vegas, Chile, Germany, Spain or Arizona, I have always scheduled my life around WSU basketball. I listen to Mike Kennedy and Dave Dahl. I got it on ESPN or CBS or wherever I could to watch on television. I would watch on television and listen to the radio even if they were not totally in sync. I go back and re-watch our victories over KU or Gonzaga.

Will I keep doing so? I don’t know. I am deeply troubled by the lack of compassion and forgiveness in our community. I am deeply troubled by our willingness to so readily run off a good man. My heart hurts for Coach Marshall and his family. They gave their all to this community. I feel differently about WSU and Wichita now than I did a month ago. And it is not a more favorable viewpoint. I suspect many people feel as I do. Like the “shy Trump supporter,” they may not speak out like I do, but they will simply passively detach from something they used to love. WSU basketball was a life and death matter to me. Now, I feel like there has been a death in the family, and am simply not sure if I will overcome the pain of this situation.

David Rahm

[Stickboy46]

I'm guessing Coach will be flying coach?

I dunno . .just because coach is no longer coach ... doesn't mean he doesn't still have friends.

[AndShock]

You don’t see conservatives anywhere rioting, hitting people,

This is kind of ironic.

[MiloPeterjohn]

I am disgusted that Coach Gregg Marshall has been forced out as Head Basketball Coach at Wichita State University. I will tell you my reasons why below.

This is cancel culture at its finest. First Ivanka Trump was disinvited as a keynote speaker at a University graduation ceremony. This led to much satisfaction among the university community, professors and students. But this too is cancel culture. Cancel people you disagree with.

The result of this episode was the firing of President Golden. Several wealthy donors indicated that they were cancelling planned or active gifts to the University because they did not agree that certain opinions were not welcome on a college campus. Let all ideas come out and may the best ideas win. But not today, the “tolerant” Left is in fact, intolerant. You don’t see conservatives anywhere rioting, hitting people, harassing them while they are eating, suspending them from school, making them take political re-education classes, etc. All things that happen on college campuses today and all from the “tolerant” Left.

So, Gregg Marshall comes to WSU. He takes it to new heights of success. His record is the best ever at the University that has an intermittent history of success. In addition, over 14 years, he had probably 100 young men in his charge. Yes, he was a hard coach. Yes he was a demanding coach. But outsiders who saw practice said he was hard on players during practice, but after practice, he would hug them and invite them over for dinner. You saw him dance in the locker room for the guys after a big win. He was obviously tight with the vast majority of his charges. But there were some who were not happy, some who were not good enough, or not dedicated enough, to make themselves into a success.

Fred Van Vleet was not a highly recruited player. Ron Baker was not a highly recruited player. Yet they reached the pinnacle of basketball success. They did it through their hard work, and their coach’s determination, encouragement and pushing. It was a “team” effort.

But others did not like his style and left, fine. Shaq Morris, a lovable big center came into the program. He was, by all indications, talented, but not industrious. He stayed for four years, and in the culmination, in a tournament game against Bam Adabayo, a now NBA all-star, dominated him when we played Kentucky. His hard work paid off, he became a professional. But it was a more gradual, more difficult effort with and for Shaq. Everybody in Wichita loved Shaq. I loved it when an unsuspecting opposing team guard would run into his pick at midcourt and go flying. But it was difficult, Coach Marshall said there were times when they did not like each other and were surprised they continued to work together. Fred Van Vleet criticized Shaq for his lack of conditioning, his lack of commitment to himself and the program. But Shaq stayed four years and became a professional basketball player.

Apparently today, lacking the kind of discipline he obtained from Coach Marshall, he has eaten himself out of his professional career. So, now, six years later, he comes out and criticizes Coach Marshall. And this leads to the resignation of Coach Marshall. This is the payback Coach Marshall gets for sticking it out with a difficult player. This is the loyalty he gets from a four-year player. Remember, Shaq knew the deal; he knew the coach, he knew his methods, he knew what he claims happened, and still he stuck around all four years.

I am not angry at Shaq, I am disappointed in Shaq. I think he is rudderless without his Mom, and rudderless now having alienated Coach Marshall. It is a sad thing to see. I wonder what kind of reception he will receive if he comes back as an Aftershock?

Coach Marshall mentored many college young men into better basketball players and better men. But he also did much more. He was active in charities in the community. He was an ambassador for the city, one reporter quoting that he was “like a member of the Wichita Chamber of Commerce.” When we went to the Final Four, I remember Mike Kennedy saying, on the radio, that the escorts for the teams in the different cities where the stages of the tournament took place, repeatedly told him “What a fine bunch of young men you have representing your university.” This was not by accident, this was due to the leadership and family environment Coach Marshall created and fostered.

It was estimated that going to the Final Four was worth five hundred million dollars in publicity to the University and Wichita. Coach Marshall single-handedly got us into a better conference. Without his success, we would still be in the Missouri Valley. We may, yet again, return to such a conference, there is no guarantee we will be permitted to stay in the AAC if we become a second-rate team.

So, for all that Coach Marshall did for the team, the fans, the University and the City, when the first sign of trouble hits, we toss him over the side. We run him out of town. We don’t stick with him, we don’t resolve the situation and allow him to stay with certain conditions. No, we negotiate and get rid of him. This is a huge mistake at every level.

Now, we have an untested interim head coach. Coach Brown is, by all indications, a good man and a good coach. But this is an impossible situation to put a new coach into. We have lost our only recruit for next year who basically said he was coming to WSU because of Coach Marshall. Attendance will be capped this year, probably at 2,500 or so per game. This means a loss of significant ticket revenue, about 75% of it. Also lost is the corresponding contributions to SASO that a season ticketholder must pay. Also lost is the large contributions from many wealthy donors. And these dollars are lost for the foreseeable future or may be lost forever.

When we can again attend basketball games, will there be 10,535 people in the stands? Probably not. How many season ticket holders did not renew this year and how many will not next year? I believe we will be back to the 80’s and 90’s with 5,000 people in the stands if we are lucky.

If WSU is successful under Coach Brown, or whoever succeeds him, then the loss will be slightly mitigated. But if he is not successful, the loss will be exacerbated. In either event, this is going to mean the loss of millions of dollars to the Athletic Department. University enrollments rose after our Final Four appearance, and continued to prosper as the team did well. Was there a correlation? Probably, I guess we will find out over the next few years.

Colleges and universities are now conducting many classes online. The traditional university is in danger, and many of these schools are already hurting financially. This situation will get worse and there will be a paradigm shift. Many campuses will become virtual. Just like going to the doctor, why not just Zoom her? The traditional campus has already changed and is in for more, possibly radical change.

I will estimate that losing Coach Marshall will cost the University a minimum of $50 million. Lost athletic revenues and gifts; lost enrollment dollars; lost large contributors to the University; lost publicity from missing March Madness (we kind of got used to going every year and the money that came directly and indirectly from it).

But most of all, we lost our integrity. We did not stand by a man who stood by us for fourteen years under trying circumstances. He had many opportunities to go to larger schools in larger conferences for more money. But he stayed. He loved the school and the community. He was loyal. He was squired by UCLA, South Carolina, North Carolina State, Texas, Alabama and who knows who else? But he remained loyal. We had to throw him out of town, not the other way around.

So, we have tarnished the reputation of a man who did much for our community and school. Frankly, I would not choose to stay around in this set of circumstances either. He would have to be almost superhuman to put up with the mixed messages he has received and would receive from the community had he stayed.

He is set for life. He never has to work again. But he will. Believe me, large universities dying for basketball success will be after him next year. If universities are willing to put up with cheaters like Larry Brown, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and others because of the money and fame, just think how much they would covet a coach who has never had a hint of scandal about him. No tapes of him saying “he paid $100,000 for a player.” No scandal among the players. No, he ran a tight and successful ship and men like him are far and few between. We had a top ten coach, and whoever we get next, in the interim and permanently, will not be. Nor will WSU have the financial resources to seek such a candidate.

So, I have to decide if I am going to keep rooting for the Shockers. I grew up listening to the jingle “Wichita State is on the go, watch the Shockers move on in victory. Take your family to the game, cheer the Shockers onto fame, Wichita wins for you.” I grew up watching Dave Stallworth, Nate Bowman, Warren Armstrong, Gene Wylie, Bull Durham, etc. That was sixty years ago, and I have been a diehard fan ever since. Whether living in Las Vegas, Chile, Germany, Spain or Arizona, I have always scheduled my life around WSU basketball. I listen to Mike Kennedy and Dave Dahl. I got it on ESPN or CBS or wherever I could to watch on television. I would watch on television and listen to the radio even if they were not totally in sync. I go back and re-watch our victories over KU or Gonzaga.

Will I keep doing so? I don’t know. I am deeply troubled by the lack of compassion and forgiveness in our community. I am deeply troubled by our willingness to so readily run off a good man. My heart hurts for Coach Marshall and his family. They gave their all to this community. I feel differently about WSU and Wichita now than I did a month ago. And it is not a more favorable viewpoint. I suspect many people feel as I do. Like the “shy Trump supporter,” they may not speak out like I do, but they will simply passively detach from something they used to love. WSU basketball was a life and death matter to me. Now, I feel like there has been a death in the family, and am simply not sure if I will overcome the pain of this situation.

David Rahm

I may very well agree with this, but I haven't read something this long before and won't start now

[shockersx]

I am disgusted that Coach Gregg Marshall has been forced out as Head Basketball Coach at Wichita State University. I will tell you my reasons why below.

This is cancel culture at its finest. First Ivanka Trump was disinvited as a keynote speaker at a University graduation ceremony. This led to much satisfaction among the university community, professors and students. But this too is cancel culture. Cancel people you disagree with.

The result of this episode was the firing of President Golden. Several wealthy donors indicated that they were cancelling planned or active gifts to the University because they did not agree that certain opinions were not welcome on a college campus. Let all ideas come out and may the best ideas win. But not today, the “tolerant” Left is in fact, intolerant. You don’t see conservatives anywhere rioting, hitting people, harassing them while they are eating, suspending them from school, making them take political re-education classes, etc. All things that happen on college campuses today and all from the “tolerant” Left.

So, Gregg Marshall comes to WSU. He takes it to new heights of success. His record is the best ever at the University that has an intermittent history of success. In addition, over 14 years, he had probably 100 young men in his charge. Yes, he was a hard coach. Yes he was a demanding coach. But outsiders who saw practice said he was hard on players during practice, but after practice, he would hug them and invite them over for dinner. You saw him dance in the locker room for the guys after a big win. He was obviously tight with the vast majority of his charges. But there were some who were not happy, some who were not good enough, or not dedicated enough, to make themselves into a success.

Fred Van Vleet was not a highly recruited player. Ron Baker was not a highly recruited player. Yet they reached the pinnacle of basketball success. They did it through their hard work, and their coach’s determination, encouragement and pushing. It was a “team” effort.

But others did not like his style and left, fine. Shaq Morris, a lovable big center came into the program. He was, by all indications, talented, but not industrious. He stayed for four years, and in the culmination, in a tournament game against Bam Adabayo, a now NBA all-star, dominated him when we played Kentucky. His hard work paid off, he became a professional. But it was a more gradual, more difficult effort with and for Shaq. Everybody in Wichita loved Shaq. I loved it when an unsuspecting opposing team guard would run into his pick at midcourt and go flying. But it was difficult, Coach Marshall said there were times when they did not like each other and were surprised they continued to work together. Fred Van Vleet criticized Shaq for his lack of conditioning, his lack of commitment to himself and the program. But Shaq stayed four years and became a professional basketball player.

Apparently today, lacking the kind of discipline he obtained from Coach Marshall, he has eaten himself out of his professional career. So, now, six years later, he comes out and criticizes Coach Marshall. And this leads to the resignation of Coach Marshall. This is the payback Coach Marshall gets for sticking it out with a difficult player. This is the loyalty he gets from a four-year player. Remember, Shaq knew the deal; he knew the coach, he knew his methods, he knew what he claims happened, and still he stuck around all four years.

I am not angry at Shaq, I am disappointed in Shaq. I think he is rudderless without his Mom, and rudderless now having alienated Coach Marshall. It is a sad thing to see. I wonder what kind of reception he will receive if he comes back as an Aftershock?

Coach Marshall mentored many college young men into better basketball players and better men. But he also did much more. He was active in charities in the community. He was an ambassador for the city, one reporter quoting that he was “like a member of the Wichita Chamber of Commerce.” When we went to the Final Four, I remember Mike Kennedy saying, on the radio, that the escorts for the teams in the different cities where the stages of the tournament took place, repeatedly told him “What a fine bunch of young men you have representing your university.” This was not by accident, this was due to the leadership and family environment Coach Marshall created and fostered.

It was estimated that going to the Final Four was worth five hundred million dollars in publicity to the University and Wichita. Coach Marshall single-handedly got us into a better conference. Without his success, we would still be in the Missouri Valley. We may, yet again, return to such a conference, there is no guarantee we will be permitted to stay in the AAC if we become a second-rate team.

So, for all that Coach Marshall did for the team, the fans, the University and the City, when the first sign of trouble hits, we toss him over the side. We run him out of town. We don’t stick with him, we don’t resolve the situation and allow him to stay with certain conditions. No, we negotiate and get rid of him. This is a huge mistake at every level.

Now, we have an untested interim head coach. Coach Brown is, by all indications, a good man and a good coach. But this is an impossible situation to put a new coach into. We have lost our only recruit for next year who basically said he was coming to WSU because of Coach Marshall. Attendance will be capped this year, probably at 2,500 or so per game. This means a loss of significant ticket revenue, about 75% of it. Also lost is the corresponding contributions to SASO that a season ticketholder must pay. Also lost is the large contributions from many wealthy donors. And these dollars are lost for the foreseeable future or may be lost forever.

When we can again attend basketball games, will there be 10,535 people in the stands? Probably not. How many season ticket holders did not renew this year and how many will not next year? I believe we will be back to the 80’s and 90’s with 5,000 people in the stands if we are lucky.

If WSU is successful under Coach Brown, or whoever succeeds him, then the loss will be slightly mitigated. But if he is not successful, the loss will be exacerbated. In either event, this is going to mean the loss of millions of dollars to the Athletic Department. University enrollments rose after our Final Four appearance, and continued to prosper as the team did well. Was there a correlation? Probably, I guess we will find out over the next few years.

Colleges and universities are now conducting many classes online. The traditional university is in danger, and many of these schools are already hurting financially. This situation will get worse and there will be a paradigm shift. Many campuses will become virtual. Just like going to the doctor, why not just Zoom her? The traditional campus has already changed and is in for more, possibly radical change.

I will estimate that losing Coach Marshall will cost the University a minimum of $50 million. Lost athletic revenues and gifts; lost enrollment dollars; lost large contributors to the University; lost publicity from missing March Madness (we kind of got used to going every year and the money that came directly and indirectly from it).

But most of all, we lost our integrity. We did not stand by a man who stood by us for fourteen years under trying circumstances. He had many opportunities to go to larger schools in larger conferences for more money. But he stayed. He loved the school and the community. He was loyal. He was squired by UCLA, South Carolina, North Carolina State, Texas, Alabama and who knows who else? But he remained loyal. We had to throw him out of town, not the other way around.

So, we have tarnished the reputation of a man who did much for our community and school. Frankly, I would not choose to stay around in this set of circumstances either. He would have to be almost superhuman to put up with the mixed messages he has received and would receive from the community had he stayed.

He is set for life. He never has to work again. But he will. Believe me, large universities dying for basketball success will be after him next year. If universities are willing to put up with cheaters like Larry Brown, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and others because of the money and fame, just think how much they would covet a coach who has never had a hint of scandal about him. No tapes of him saying “he paid $100,000 for a player.” No scandal among the players. No, he ran a tight and successful ship and men like him are far and few between. We had a top ten coach, and whoever we get next, in the interim and permanently, will not be. Nor will WSU have the financial resources to seek such a candidate.

So, I have to decide if I am going to keep rooting for the Shockers. I grew up listening to the jingle “Wichita State is on the go, watch the Shockers move on in victory. Take your family to the game, cheer the Shockers onto fame, Wichita wins for you.” I grew up watching Dave Stallworth, Nate Bowman, Warren Armstrong, Gene Wylie, Bull Durham, etc. That was sixty years ago, and I have been a diehard fan ever since. Whether living in Las Vegas, Chile, Germany, Spain or Arizona, I have always scheduled my life around WSU basketball. I listen to Mike Kennedy and Dave Dahl. I got it on ESPN or CBS or wherever I could to watch on television. I would watch on television and listen to the radio even if they were not totally in sync. I go back and re-watch our victories over KU or Gonzaga.

Will I keep doing so? I don’t know. I am deeply troubled by the lack of compassion and forgiveness in our community. I am deeply troubled by our willingness to so readily run off a good man. My heart hurts for Coach Marshall and his family. They gave their all to this community. I feel differently about WSU and Wichita now than I did a month ago. And it is not a more favorable viewpoint. I suspect many people feel as I do. Like the “shy Trump supporter,” they may not speak out like I do, but they will simply passively detach from something they used to love. WSU basketball was a life and death matter to me. Now, I feel like there has been a death in the family, and am simply not sure if I will overcome the pain of this situation.

David Rahm

D-

[ShockAzs]

Sad day. The university, fans, players, and Coach Marshall all suffered as a final result here. Thank you GM for all you have accomplished and the amazing run of success.
(We won't know the investigation results, which further sucks. Just being in the dark still...)

Here's to HC Isaac Brown with his chance to really step up and fill some big shoes.

To all the student athletes busting their butts and believing in the Shocker way, it is time to show the nation you can keep this train moving! Go Shocks.

[T.VuOP]

He resigned. What can we do? Was he forced out?

[1972Shocker]

He resigned. What can we do? Was he forced out?

No. He voluntarily resigned and the University agreed to pay him $8 million dollars even though they had no obligation pay him anything if he voluntarily resigned.

Yes, of course he was forced out. But WSU agreeing to pay him $8 million tells you they were not at all confident in their case to fire 3G for cause and not wanting any of their own dirty laundry to be aired out. It was a negotiated settlement with both parties bound to nondisclosure agreements.

[BOBB]

Sorry guys! I'm just a little hostile. Losing a president and a coach who both I admired in the manner of weeks, both do to BS is just a little depressing.
i will stop posting untill the games begin.

I mean, why break a good habit?

[GottliebHater]

Taylor Eldridge just said on The Drive that 8 players from those teams, not counting Ty or Shaq confirmed the allegations were true off record.

If you don't believe it, you are saying he is a liar.