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  • 2011-2012 Shocker Men's Prouty Ratings

    Here is the formula used to get the Prouty Ratings.

    Prouty Rating = [Offensive Efficiency + Total Offense + Possessions Gained + Win Rating] / 4

    Offensive Efficiency = TP / (FGA*2 + FTA)
    Total Offense = (TP + A*2 - TO) / Player MIN
    Possessions Gained = (REB + S + BLK/2 - PF) / Player MIN
    Win Rating = Player MIN / (Team MIN / 5) * (Wins / Game #)

    And here is the grading that was used previously:

    534
    500
    467
    434
    400
    367
    334
    300
    267
    234
    200
    >
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    <
    566
    566
    533
    499
    466
    433
    399
    366
    333
    299
    266
    233
    200
    A+
    A
    A-
    B+
    B
    B-
    C+
    C
    C-
    D+
    D
    D-
    F

  • #2
    Wichita State vs Charleston Southern Prouty Ratings

    Player

    Kyles
    Williams
    Hall
    Cotton
    Smith
    White
    Murry
    Orukpe
    Ragland
    Anacreon
    Stutz
    Wessel
    Vautravers
    TEAM
    CSU
    Game

    0.644
    0.585
    0.538
    0.496
    0.446
    0.420
    0.388
    0.373
    0.355
    0.267
    0.265
    0.123
    -0.044
    0.569
    All
    Games

    0.644
    0.585
    0.538
    0.496
    0.446
    0.420
    0.388
    0.373
    0.355
    0.267
    0.265
    0.123
    -0.044
    0.569

    Grade

    A+
    A+
    A
    B+
    B
    B-
    C+
    C+
    C
    D+
    D
    F
    F
    A+
    Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
    Best game rating of the season
    Best overall rating of the season
    Last edited by 1979Shocker; November 20, 2011, 12:50 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
      Wichita State vs Charleston Southern Prouty Ratings

      Player

      Kyles
      Williams
      Hall
      Cotton
      Smith
      White
      Murry
      Orukpe
      Ragland
      Anacreon
      Stutz
      Wessel
      Vautravers
      TEAM
      CSU
      Game

      0.644
      0.585
      0.538
      0.496
      0.446
      0.420
      0.388
      0.373
      0.355
      0.267
      0.265
      0.123
      -0.044
      0.568
      All
      Games

      0.644
      0.585
      0.538
      0.496
      0.446
      0.420
      0.388
      0.373
      0.355
      0.267
      0.265
      0.123
      -0.044
      0.568

      Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
      1Best game rating of the season
      2Best overall rating of the season
      Could you please add a column witht the letter grade?

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      • #4
        Here is a chart showing the Player and Team Prouty Ratings for each game. It doesn't show too much yet. It will take a few games.

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        • #5
          Wichita State vs Colorado Prouty Ratings

          Player

          Kyles
          Smith
          Murry
          Hall
          Stutz
          Cotton
          Williams
          White
          Ragland
          Orukpe
          Anacreon
          Wessel
          Vautravers
          TEAM
          CU
          Game

          0.551
          0.539
          0.506
          0.452
          0.504
          0.000
          0.243
          0.000
          0.396
          0.163
          0.000
          0.000
          0.000
          0.519
          All
          Games

          0.586
          0.494
          0.458
          0.455
          0.413
          0.409
          0.385
          0.382
          0.364
          0.312
          0.248
          0.079
          -0.069
          0.545

          Grade

          A
          B+
          B
          B
          B-
          B-
          C+
          C+
          C
          C-
          D
          F
          F
          A
          Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
          Best game rating of the season
          Best overall rating of the season
          Played less than 1 minute
          Last edited by 1979Shocker; November 20, 2011, 01:04 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
            Wichita State vs Colorado Prouty Ratings

            Player

            Kyles
            Smith
            Murry
            Hall
            Stutz
            Cotton
            Williams
            White
            Ragland
            Orukpe
            Anacreon
            Wessel
            Vautravers
            TEAM
            CU
            Game

            0.551
            0.539
            0.506
            0.452
            0.504
            0.000
            0.243
            0.000
            0.396
            0.163
            0.000
            0.000
            0.000
            0.530
            All
            Games

            0.586
            0.494
            0.458
            0.455
            0.413
            0.409
            0.385
            0.382
            0.364
            0.312
            0.248
            0.079
            -0.069
            0.550

            Grade

            A
            B+
            B
            B
            B-
            B-
            C+
            C+
            C
            C-
            D
            F
            F
            A
            Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
            Best game rating of the season
            Best overall rating of the season
            Every single person who reads this should REP 1979Shocker. I know it doesn't mean a lot, but the least we can do for the work he puts into it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
              Wichita State vs Colorado Prouty Ratings

              Player

              Kyles
              Smith
              Murry
              Hall
              Stutz
              Cotton
              Williams
              White
              Ragland
              Orukpe
              Anacreon
              Wessel
              Vautravers
              TEAM
              CU
              Game

              0.551
              0.539
              0.506
              0.452
              0.504
              0.000
              0.243
              0.000
              0.396
              0.163
              0.000
              0.000
              0.000
              0.530
              All
              Games

              0.586
              0.494
              0.458
              0.455
              0.413
              0.409
              0.385
              0.382
              0.364
              0.312
              0.248
              0.079
              -0.069
              0.550

              Grade

              A
              B+
              B
              B
              B-
              B-
              C+
              C+
              C
              C-
              D
              F
              F
              A
              Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
              Best game rating of the season
              Best overall rating of the season
              Thanks for adding the column witht the letter grade. Great job and keep up the good work.

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              • #8
                Wichita State vs Alabama Prouty Ratings

                Player

                Murry
                Kyles
                Smith
                Hall
                Stutz
                White
                Ragland
                Cotton
                Williams
                Orukpe
                Anacreon
                Wessel
                Vautravers
                TEAM
                UA
                Game

                0.470
                0.175
                0.383
                0.317
                0.343
                0.000
                0.410
                0.021
                0.027
                0.050
                0.000
                0.000
                0.000
                0.384
                All
                Games

                0.438
                0.428
                0.416
                0.373
                0.363
                0.361
                0.355
                0.322
                0.269
                0.240
                0.238
                0.055
                -0.083
                0.439

                Grade

                B
                B-
                B-
                C+
                C
                C
                C
                C-
                D+
                D
                D
                F
                F
                B
                Team Winning Percentage: 0.667
                Best game rating of the season
                Best overall rating of the season
                Played less than 1 minute
                Last edited by 1979Shocker; November 20, 2011, 01:22 AM.

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                • #9
                  Just like an RPI, one should be careful how they view the Prouty Ratings early in the year as the numbers jump all over the place due to W/L %. Murry, who probably had his best game of the season, just slightly better than his second game, had a single game rating 36 points less that than second game, simply because the team lost. His overall rating also went from a solid B to just 5 points above a B- overall rating dropping 20 points. Also, Ragland had his best game of the season, even by Prouty standards with the Shocks losing the game, yet his overall rating dropped 9 points and he stayed as a C. I know the "grade level" is just there to help as a guide to the what the numbers may indicate, but the question is, were there really 7 A level player games in the first 2 games and none in the 3rd? I've just always felt that a player's rating or efficiency should be more of what the player actually did and not whether the team won or lost.

                  The other odd phenomena is that the current team rating is 1 point higher than any player on the team. One would think that a team rating would be more of an average of the individuals playing the most minutes. As I said, much of this is due to the small game sample. At this point, it's much better to ignore the letter grades altogether and the rating of one player's game to that of another's in a different game. What is informative is the "all games" ranking of players from top to bottom as to who has been the most efficient and who has not.

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                  • #10
                    love the analysis, thanks man.

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                    • #11
                      Here is the chart after 3 games. I removed players that don't have significant minutes.

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                      • #12
                        Kinda looks like water swirling down a toilet bowl.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                          Kinda looks like water swirling down a toilet bowl.
                          Well actually it's starting to look like a waterfall.

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                          • #14
                            Wichita State vs Temple Prouty Ratings

                            Player

                            Murry
                            Kyles
                            Stutz
                            Smith
                            White
                            Ragland
                            Hall
                            Cotton
                            Anacreon
                            Williams
                            Orukpe
                            Wessel
                            Vautravers
                            TEAM
                            TU
                            Game

                            0.447
                            0.382
                            0.431
                            0.311
                            0.003
                            0.294
                            0.236
                            0.307
                            0.000
                            0.021
                            -0.067
                            0.000
                            0.000
                            0.376
                            All
                            Games

                            0.422
                            0.393
                            0.373
                            0.367
                            0.339
                            0.320
                            0.318
                            0.310
                            0.234
                            0.209
                            0.185
                            0.046
                            -0.088
                            0.389

                            Grade

                            B-
                            C+
                            C+
                            C+
                            C
                            C-
                            C-
                            C-
                            D
                            D-
                            F
                            F
                            F
                            C+
                            Team Winning Percentage: 0.500
                            Best game rating of the season
                            Best overall rating of the season
                            Played less than 1 minute

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
                              Wichita State vs Temple Prouty Ratings

                              Player

                              Murry
                              Kyles
                              Stutz
                              Smith
                              White
                              Ragland
                              Hall
                              Cotton
                              Anacreon
                              Williams
                              Orukpe
                              Wessel
                              Vautravers
                              TEAM
                              TU
                              Game

                              0.447
                              0.382
                              0.431
                              0.311
                              0.003
                              0.294
                              0.236
                              0.307
                              0.000
                              0.021
                              -0.067
                              0.000
                              0.000
                              0.376
                              All
                              Games

                              0.422
                              0.393
                              0.373
                              0.367
                              0.339
                              0.320
                              0.318
                              0.310
                              0.234
                              0.209
                              0.185
                              0.046
                              -0.088
                              0.389

                              Grade

                              B-
                              C+
                              C+
                              C+
                              C
                              C-
                              C-
                              C-
                              D
                              D-
                              F
                              F
                              F
                              C+
                              Team Winning Percentage: 0.500
                              Best game rating of the season
                              Best overall rating of the season
                              Played less than 1 minute
                              Could please add one more column? Add a Column with the letter grade for the Temple (TU) Game. Just a suggestion.

                              Again, thanks for the extra work!!!

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