Great Ticket Offer for UAB vs WSU at IBA - $10, $25, $35

[SubGod22]

UAB has been a better program than us in the last decade and we're slamming them because a Duke or North Carolina wasn't brought in for this game? Really?

You do understand this is a slow process. These types of games start at the ground level and work their way up, not the other way around. As shockmonster said, it's practically a home game we don't have to return and we get a Top 75 opponent out of it, something we have FAILED to get at Koch in the regular season. Where are these home and homes with great to decent opponents at Koch? I must have missed them.

Time to suck it up for the team (and I'm not just talking about you, but rather the entire fanbase), and get out and support the team, or we'll never get a "name" team in to the arena anyways.

You do understand that we're talking about the AVERAGE fan here right? To them, UAB isn't going a big deal. EVERYBODY on this board knows that UAB is a solid program, but they don't have the WOW factor for the average fan out there. Especially for what ticket prices started at.

[SB Shock]

I don't get it. Wouldn't this be a great chance for WSU fans that can't get season tickets to a sold out Koch to see their team in person?

Koch arena is not sold out, only 10,180 in today game. Plenty of open block of seats all across the arena. I know some people who didn't renew their season tickets not because they didn't want to, but they just couldn't afford to due to their financial situation.

[Kung Wu]

You do understand that we're talking about the AVERAGE fan here right? To them, UAB isn't going a big deal. EVERYBODY on this board knows that UAB is a solid program, but they don't have the WOW factor for the average fan out there. Especially for what ticket prices started at.

I'm more in line with @ShockerFever:'s stance on this discussion, but the one argument made over and over by several people just doesn't ring with me at all. And it's here I side with @SubGod22:.

I think there are lots of great reasons why UAB at IBA is excellent for WSU, but saying the turnout of this game makes a difference about future WSU events at IBA just isn't right.

It's like saying if you ever want to be served our super popular T-Bone steak in the future, you better order the Salisbury steak tonight and show the chef his appreciation. What, really? I'm the customer and I love your T-Bone steak, but screw your patty with gravy, unless I feel like it. I ain't gonna be threatened into eating Salisbury steak.

Other than that weak argument that not showing well this year means we couldn't sell out Duke in 30 seconds flat, next year, I'm still strongly with the IBA crowd.

[pinstripers]

Sorry Fev, I found out today I'll be out of town for Thanksgiving.

[ShockerFever]

You do understand that we're talking about the AVERAGE fan here right? To them, UAB isn't going a big deal. EVERYBODY on this board knows that UAB is a solid program, but they don't have the WOW factor for the average fan out there. Especially for what ticket prices started at.

There are quite a few on here, which anybody on here I wouldn't consider to be an "average" fan, that I'm sure haven't gotten tickets or aren't planning on to.

I do sympathize with the ticket prices situation. However, they have started cutting at them a bit in the last week. Regardless, I would hope that the average fan sees this as a great chance to see WSU play outside of an otherwise sold out Koch Arena. No, it's not WOW, but WOW will never get here without NOW. NOW meaning you have to invest now.

And @Kung Wu:, this is how it works. You may not believe it, but this game's sales will most definitely have impacts on future games with higher-end opponents. If you don't believe me, I'll link you with an article to today's Wichita Eagle, regarding the AD's thoughts on sales for this game and its future implications.

[shox1989]

I'm more in line with @ShockerFever:'s stance on this discussion, but the one argument made over and over by several people just doesn't ring with me at all. And it's here I side with @SubGod22:.

I think there are lots of great reasons why UAB at IBA is excellent for WSU, but saying the turnout of this game makes a difference about future WSU events at IBA just isn't right.

It's like saying if you ever want to be served our super popular T-Bone steak in the future, you better order the Salisbury steak tonight and show the chef his appreciation. What, really? I'm the customer and I love your T-Bone steak, but screw your patty with gravy, unless I feel like it. I ain't be threatened into eating Salisbury steak.

Other than that weak argument that not showing well this year means we couldn't sell out Duke in 30 seconds flat, next year, I'm still strongly with the IBA crowd.

I think the WSU atheltic dept and staff are aligned with Fever on this. That is the only reason for them to spend $20 to $30,000 to promote this game and to make phone calls to season ticket holders to buy tickets.

They are guaranteed $125,000 if they do no promotion at all. Spending $30,000 on promotion actually makes it a net $95,000 take.

But they realize that a crowd of 7200 would kill any chances of any promoter taking a financial gamble to try and bring a BCS team to IBA to play WSU.

Just listen to the first 5 minutes of the podcast of the coaches show on Monday or read today's paper:

" ...WSU athletic director Eric Sexton wants fans to think of tickets to the Intrust Bank Arena men's basketball game as an investment.
It's not just about that Nov. 25 game with Alabama-Birmingham. It's about future scheduling opportunities...... "


Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/11/13/210...#ixzz1ddqOVm00

[wusphlash]

Somebody's got to put up serious money to promote these games. We need to show that we will back the effort. Eric is right on.

[Kung Wu]

And @Kung Wu:, this is how it works. You may not believe it, but this game's sales will most definitely have impacts on future games with higher-end opponents. If you don't believe me, I'll link you with an article to today's Wichita Eagle, regarding the AD's thoughts on sales for this game and its future implications.

I hear ya, but if I were the WSU staff I'd say anything to sell more tickets too. It only affects our ability to schedule more UABs though at the end of the day. If they bring a Gonzaga or better it sells out quickly no matter what happens this year, don't ya think?. (Gonzaga is on the lower end of the auto-sellouts IMHO so that's why I use them as an example -- it really doesn't have to be a Duke)

I still think we'll sell this out though so it's probably a moot point. There's not 14k that are going to support the reigning NIT champs in what will probably be the biggest non-con game of the year?

[vancedave56]

This could be a great event and the beginning of a tradition. Having the game the day after Thanksgiving is a good timing. Many people have family time together during the holiday week, and what better way to spend it. We have SHOCKER BASKETBALL against a quality opponent in the downtown arena; what a great way to spend some "family time" together over the holiday. With the revitalization of downtown Wichita and the upgrading of old town, this COULD become something we would look forward to every year - something to plan on doing just as the trip to St. Louis at the beginning of March.

WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND BE INVOLOVED.

[SubGod22]

Except just as many people will probably be out of town for Thanksgiving as well. That, and some MTE's will be going on so some years we won't be able to pull off this time slot at IBA.

[Kung Wu]

I think the WSU atheltic dept and staff are aligned with Fever on this. That is the only reason for them to spend $20 to $30,000 to promote this game and to make phone calls to season ticket holders to buy tickets.

They are guaranteed $125,000 if they do no promotion at all. Spending $30,000 on promotion actually makes it a net $95,000 take.

But they realize that a crowd of 7200 would kill any chances of any promoter taking a financial gamble to try and bring a BCS team to IBA to play WSU.

Just listen to the first 5 minutes of the podcast of the coaches show on Monday or read today's paper:

" ...WSU athletic director Eric Sexton wants fans to think of tickets to the Intrust Bank Arena men's basketball game as an investment.
It's not just about that Nov. 25 game with Alabama-Birmingham. It's about future scheduling opportunities...... "


Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/11/13/210...#ixzz1ddqOVm00

Whoa, I just realized there is no game between the tournament and UAB -- which means there is not an additional game to spread word of mouth amongst the 10k fans about how good we are and that they need to get tickets to go to the UAB game.

I was thinking there was one game in between. I sadly may have to back off my sell-out prediction. On the other hand we are reigning NIT champs and probably the best non-con game in Wichita is going to be at IBA -- why wouldn't 14k show up?

This is a hard one to guess.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

I'm more in line with @ShockerFever:'s stance on this discussion, but the one argument made over and over by several people just doesn't ring with me at all. And it's here I side with @SubGod22:.

I think there are lots of great reasons why UAB at IBA is excellent for WSU, but saying the turnout of this game makes a difference about future WSU events at IBA just isn't right.

It's like saying if you ever want to be served our super popular T-Bone steak in the future, you better order the Salisbury steak tonight and show the chef his appreciation. What, really? I'm the customer and I love your T-Bone steak, but screw your patty with gravy, unless I feel like it. I ain't gonna be threatened into eating Salisbury steak.

Other than that weak argument that not showing well this year means we couldn't sell out Duke in 30 seconds flat, next year, I'm still strongly with the IBA crowd.

I respectfully disagree. This analogy is drastically flawed because the promoter is the customer, not WSU fans. We're not taking a chance on him, he's taking a chance on US. It's like work--if you want to be a part of the big glamorous project, or want to handle the account of the most important customer, you have to pay your dues and do a great job on the work you have now.

[martymoose]

The best way to sell out IBA is for WSU to win the next 3 in a row.

[Capitol Shock II]

UAB is a must win in my opinion. Creighton plays them this week and I would hate for CU to beat them and us lose to them in a weak showing by our fan base.

You can bet at the end of the season the basketball world will be judging our resume in part based upon what the result of this game is. Get out and support the team if you want an nCaa bid.

[pinstripers]

The NCAA bid is based heavily on attendance.