Fred VanVleet (2012-16) "Future" Shocker Sports Hall of Famer

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I'd be curious which PG's are ahead of him on the list.

[WstateU]

I'd be curious which PG's are ahead of him on the list.

I'm guessing Trae (needs some Rogaine) Young?

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I'm guessing Trae (needs some Rogaine) Young?

Probably. I am guessing Westbrook, Paul, Lillard, Curry, Kyrie, Kemba Walker. Am I missing anyone? That is pretty salty company to be in.

[bighouse]

Brogdon 39
Gilgeous Alexander 38
Westbrook 36
Fox 34
Holiday 33
morant 31
lowry 30
young 29
Irving 25
murry 21
cp3 15
- top 10 TBD

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Brogdon 39
Gilgeous Alexander 38
Westbrook 36
Fox 34
Holiday 33
morant 31
lowry 30
young 29
Irving 25
murry 21
cp3 15
- top 10 TBD

I would take FVV over all but Westbrook, Irving, CP3, Curry, and Lillard. Close call with Fox and Morant, but I'd still take FVV. I don't consider some of those dudes on that list PG's.

[Dan]

CP3 and Lowry are getting past their primes. I like Morant a lot.

[Shocker Mama]

I'm guessing Trae (needs some Rogaine) Young?

That guy is going to be bald by 30.

[mattdalt]

I would take FVV over all but Westbrook, Irving, CP3, Curry, and Lillard. Close call with Fox and Morant, but I'd still take FVV. I don't consider some of those dudes on that list PG's.

If you are taking Westbrook, it is only for entertainment value, and not winning. Same with Irving (headcase).
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[Downtown Shocker Brown]

To think we were THAT close to having two Top 50 PG on our roster....

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

If you are taking Westbrook, it is only for entertainment value, and not winning. Same with Irving (headcase).
.

I'll give you Kyrie but Westbrook? His teams are 582-376 in his career including 11 playoff appearances, 3 conference finals and 1 NBA finals appearance.

[mattdalt]

I'll give you Kyrie but Westbrook? His teams are 582-376 in his career including 11 playoff appearances, 3 conference finals and 1 NBA finals appearance.

Westbrook repeatedly fails in big moments. And any success his teams had came when h was a third otion, maybe second every now and then

[shockersx]

Westbrook’s value is definitely decreasing. He’s not a consistent threat from 3 pt range, turnover prone, and is not a great decision maker. His biggest asset is his athleticism and how hard he plays, and getting into his 30s his athleticism will only decline.

I like Russ a lot because of the teammate he is and how hard he plays every game, but that’s just kinda the reality of his worth now.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Westbrook repeatedly fails in big moments. And any success his teams had came when h was a third otion, maybe second every now and then

Agree to disagree on that. Completely false.

[wichshock65]

[Shocker Mama]

And Gordon Hayward is 6’7”.