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**JVShocker** · February 22, 2019, 09:02 AM

For me, less time in weight room, and more time in gym. These players should be making (MAKING not shooting) at least 500 shots a day from 2-3 feet BEYOND the 3 point line. AT LEAST 500. BEYOND the 3 point line. Not at the 3 line. Along the baseline, the only shots that count are from the out of bounds lines. I'm 51 years old and it still only takes me about 30-35 minutes to get to 300. 500 is not out of the question, maybe even 2 times daily.

**ShockerPrez** · February 22, 2019, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by JVShocker(1) View Post

For me, less time in weight room, and more time in gym. These players should be making (MAKING not shooting) at least 500 shots a day from 2-3 feet BEYOND the 3 point line. AT LEAST 500. BEYOND the 3 point line. Not at the 3 line. Along the baseline, the only shots that count are from the out of bounds lines. I'm 51 years old and it still only takes me about 30-35 minutes to get to 300. 500 is not out of the question, maybe even 2 times daily.

They need to get comfortable with hurrying up their shot. Basically, whatever amount of time they took in high school to shoot, drive, etc needs to be faster in college. They are getting a feel how much faster that needs to be this year. The offseason needs to be working at the envelope of being out of control in order to find that comfort level. You can see the struggle this year with all the shots getting blocked. They need to get faster with the whole process of getting a shot off and making it.

**rjl** · February 22, 2019, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Topshock View Post

Let's be honest this is more JE and his two Mini-me's. JE averages more points and rebounds than the other two combined and it's not close.

At this point, I think we can eschew season-long stats for stats over the last 5 or 6 games. It's evident AM has improved tremendously over that span, to the point where I'd almost rather see him in the game than JE.

**Aargh** · February 22, 2019, 09:29 AM

I'm hopeful that Udeze is able and willing to take a redshirt year next year. He's going to miss an entire summer of workouts. There will be strength and conditioning issues. He looked good early in the season, but really faded once the shoulder started bothering him.

Rehab from shoulder injuries is long. Give him some extra time to get in shape, get his range of motion back, and move one player out of the logjam in the So class next year.

**rjl** · February 22, 2019, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Shockadaisical View Post

The team definitely needs more quality big men. So far there is not a player north 6'6 who looks like a future stud. That is not to say that they couldn't develop with some hard work in the gym and the weight room. Until one is recruited, the team will just need to work on developing what they have. Jamie E. Is the closet and by next season he might by the kind of guy who could be more of a force. Midtgard as somebody mentioned earlier is just too slow for athletic big men. He will probably always be a guy that will have his minutes limited when facing mobile centers.

This whole idea of needing to get "dominant" centers is funny.

No ****, it would be nice.

How many dominant centers--freshmen, no less--are out there this year in the entire NCAA? How many of them aren't playing for Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or North Carolina?

**pinstripers** · February 22, 2019, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by rjl View Post

At this point, I think we can eschew .

"watched yourself gavotte "

**wufan** · February 22, 2019, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Topshock View Post

Let's be honest this is more JE and his two Mini-me's. JE averages more points and rebounds than the other two combined and it's not close.

That’s not true in all circumstances. Certainly JE is the best post, and gets the most minutes, but...

conference stats:

JE: 17.8 min, 7.4 points, 5.5 boards
AM: 12.8 min, 4 points, 3.8 boards
IPBC: 11 min, 4.4 points, 2.5 boards

**Shockm** · February 22, 2019, 12:54 PM

If you look at games in the recent past, JE has played well in realatively few minutes because of foul problems, etc. AM has really come on, and played well, and PBC has shown potential. So while statistically you are correct, anyone can see that the other two have given us good minutes too. The way we foul, we are lucky all three are coming along and improving.

**Shocktoberfest** · February 22, 2019, 01:44 PM

I have this recurring dream of a 23 year old senior Poor Bear that looks like he is 35 years old and is beating the living $##t out of people. At least that is in my dream.

**MikeKennedyRulZ** · February 22, 2019, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by JVShocker(1) View Post

For me, less time in weight room, and more time in gym. These players should be making (MAKING not shooting) at least 500 shots a day from 2-3 feet BEYOND the 3 point line. AT LEAST 500. BEYOND the 3 point line. Not at the 3 line. Along the baseline, the only shots that count are from the out of bounds lines. I'm 51 years old and it still only takes me about 30-35 minutes to get to 300. 500 is not out of the question, maybe even 2 times daily.

**ShockAzs** · February 24, 2019, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Shocktoberfest View Post

I have this recurring dream of a 23 year old senior Poor Bear that looks like he is 35 years old and is beating the living $##t out of people. At least that is in my dream.

IPBC will be an absolute BEAST for us.

**wufan** · February 24, 2019, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Root Angry View Post

IPBC will be an absolute BEAST for us.

He was ugly last night.

**pinstripers** · February 24, 2019, 09:59 AM

AM and ES do not have enough quickness to play D. Notice a pattern?

**Kashman** · February 24, 2019, 10:07 AM

I just went and looked up freshman stats on FVV Baker and Cotton and compared them to JB DD and ES. Nothing huge jumps off the charts to make you think the first group is better than our current freshman during their first years here. Points assists TO rebounds ect. All comparable. The main differences....

1. The first set of FR had experienced players to learn the system as they progressed. They had nearly 6 months to get it and contribute down the stretch. They were not guided by SHJ or MM. That eventually got them to the final four. The next year's team went undefeated. Those two teams had three NBA players on them. THREE

2. AAC vs The Valley. Or current FR are playing against better competition night end and night out. They are playing against upperclassmen, some of whom will be cashing NBA checks next year. Part of the being able to get better, repetition. Doing the same thing over and over till you can di it in your sleep. You know. Practice. The entire Valley season was practice. You knew the game was over after the tip. The opponent knew it was over during warm-ups. There was very little resistance. It was, for the most part, a seven month practice session getting ready for March. We will not get the luxury of having practice games in the AAC.

I don't know about anyone else here but I'm going to look back at the season and remember how much this team had grown from the La Tech game. Just like when your kid takes their first steps, falls down and cracks their head on the coffee table. Eventually they get it and are running all over the place. Thus team is not that far away from a 20+ wins. Davidson were couldn't make a flippin layup. Alabama went 31 for 33 at the line. We didn't score the last 3+mintues against Temple. Memphis.... couldn't stop Martin. Next year's team won't have that deer in the headlights look like in the La Tech game. I see these as all wins next year.

For the most part, we don't have crazy shot selection outside of .... well... you know. To me, those 10-15 crap shots per game might as will be turnovers. Let's say half of those turn into good shots next year and we make half of them. DD JB and ES will hopefully be working on handles this coming offseason. JB work on his outside shooting. This team will improve to no worse than fourth next year and start another string of NCAA tourney runs.

**Dan** · February 24, 2019, 10:33 AM

At this point, and we are a long ways into the season, it looks like we really only have 2 reliable scorers going into next year - DD and JE. Dex has only been a recent emergence, but you can see he has it in him. I think ES can become a reliable scorer as well, but we can’t afford to let him be a volume shooter like he was in high school. He must get more efficient with his shooting. After that, it’s a pretty big drop off. At least MM and sometimes SHJ gives us a couple more options. We need our guys to transform their games this offseason if they want to be a big part of this team.

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