Chris Jans Original Thread

[shocker22]

Actually, simply touching a woman without her consent can result in battery charges. Jans is on camera with a potential sexual battery conviction if the "patted" woman wants to press charges. That would get Jans on the sexual offender list for the rest of his life.

Not accurate

[shoxlax]

Actually, simply touching a woman without her consent can result in battery charges. Jans is on camera with a potential sexual battery conviction if the "patted" woman wants to press charges. That would get Jans on the sexual offender list for the rest of his life.

Ding ding ding we have a winner. Of course the touching has to be offensive to the victim not some guy with a camera

[jocoshock]

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-sl...-co-1695360858

Here's the complainant's description of the night:



If I were Jans' lawyer, I would rip the everliving **** out of this.

While I'm sure what actually happened was not Jans' finest hour, and there are certain things he would take back if he could, I am equally certain that the above is not what actually happened, and no one here should be, either.

You could be right, OR, this event, now public might bring more allegations from other women. Who knows for sure. Regardless, CJ screwed up and it cost him his job and reputation, and that is on him.

He needs to figure out his tour of atonement, and get started on it asap.

[Shock Top]

It's not that I disagree with the compassion part. Bowling Green actually went against the wishes of the people who reported the incident. They specifically said during the on-going communication that they didn't want Jans to be ruined. They almost pleaded with Bowling Green to go easy on Jans, and they stated those wishes repeatedly. Maybe they shouldn't have reported it at all, and maybe now they wish that they hadn't. On the other hand, Jans should mostly be blaming himself.

Why take the time to film it and send it to the university then?

Granted, CJ actions are still his undoing, but they certainly went through a lot of trouble to bring it to BGSU's attention.

Not excusing CJ here. He knows what he did was wrong. That said, he was unfortunate to have been there the same night as this alumni.

If this helps CJ better himself in any way, then ultimately this will all turn out just fine.

[Aargh]

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-sl...-co-1695360858

Here's the complainant's description of the night:



If I were Jans' lawyer, I would rip the everliving **** out of this.

While I'm sure what actually happened was not Jans' finest hour, and there are certain things he would take back if he could, I am equally certain that the above is not what actually happened, and no one here should be, either.

In the termination letter from BG, they say that Jans agreed to all the accusations that have been seen and more that haven't made a lot of rounds on the web.

It is impossible to defend Jans in this situation. He has, in his own interview with his AD, admitted that everything he's accuse of did actually happen.

[KC Shox]

It's inapproproate not sexual battery or assault "big guy". Plus that's a terrible comparison because he was already having a conversation with the lady.

First off sweetie, I said an overzealous prosecutor COULD seek that charge, it doesn't mean that CJ WOULD get charged. Definition of Battery - an offensive touching or use of force on a person without the person's consent. All it would take is for that girl to go to the Police and inform them she wants to press charges against CJ. If she can articulate that she never gave him permission to touch her arse, was offended and emotionally compromised, the Police may very well make an arrest as this would fit the requirement of a battery. There, the prosecutor makes the decision to file charges. Who knows how that would go down. You act like this scenario could never come to fruition.

[rjl]

Actually, simply touching a woman without her consent can result in battery charges. Jans is on camera with a potential sexual battery conviction if the "patted" woman wants to press charges. That would get Jans on the sexual offender list for the rest of his life.

[kochHead]

If you have read all the material on dead spin and you have at least a grade 12 reading comprehension level, then you have met the minimum requirements for this debate, otherwise you are just waisting bandwidth.

[rjl]

In the termination letter from BG, they say that Jans agreed to all the accusations that have been seen and more that haven't made a lot of rounds on the web.

It is impossible to defend Jans in this situation. He has, in his own interview with his AD, admitted that everything he's accuse of did actually happen.

It's actually easy to defend him. That termination letter doesn't mean ****. If anything, it supplies plenty of reasons why Jans' recollection, or subsequent admission, of any act on that night is suspect.

(By the way, even if you take the termination letter as gospel, he doesn't admit to everything).

So the only real thing you've got is a letter written by a man with an agenda. If we assume, for the sake of argument, Jans did anything at all to the complainant's daughter, you can rest assured that letter was written with a distinct desire to paint things in the most negative possible light.

[shocker22]

First off sweetie, I said an overzealous prosecutor COULD seek that charge, it doesn't mean that CJ WOULD get charged. Definition of Battery - an offensive touching or use of force on a person without the person's consent. All it would take is for that girl to go to the Police and inform them she wants to press charges against CJ. If she can articulate that she never gave him permission to touch her arse, was offended and emotionally compromised, the Police may very well make an arrest as this would fit the requirement of a battery. There, the prosecutor makes the decision to file charges. Who knows how that would go down. You act like this scenario could never come to fruition.

Ok cupcake...you conveniently left out that the actor has to know that his touching is unwanted for it to be battery. If the lady got in his face or told him no and he continued then it's battery.

[SHOXAAC]

The "concerned" alum and his family helped to escalate the situation.

Have you been nipping at the bottle a little maybe?

[kochHead]

Everyone needs to re read the report. That film was the first encounter the daughter had with Jans.

Edit: some need to re-read, not everyone.

[SHOCKvalue]

Admittedly I haven't read all sources on this, but do we have anything here other than conjecture, hearsay, and a 5 second video of Jan's smacking some random (not his wife, not cool) chick's ass? I'm not defending him necessarily, but if you are going to fry a guy's career at the stake, you sure as hell better have more than that.

Tort laws and libel also exist on the opposite end of the spectrum here.

EDIT: And if your family unit finds hanging out in bars in the early hours to be a reasonable activity, there's a pretty good chance you have some demons in your back pocket as well.

[shocker22]

Admittedly I haven't read all sources on this, but do we have anything here other than conjecture, hearsay, and a 5 second video of Jan's smacking some random (not his wife, not cool) chick's ass? I'm not defending him necessarily, but if you are going to fry a guy's career at the stake, you sure as hell better have more than that.

This!

[Dave Stalwart]

Joke timeout. You could say this wasn't a very ChrisJan thing to do, couldn't you?