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  • #46
    Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
    Valley of Death --> Valley of Even --> Valley no one wants to win
    MVC = Minimum Variance Conference
    Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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    • #47
      I posted the note on attendance below on the MVC board but thought some here might enjoy it as well.


      MVC Attendance Year-by-Year

      2017-18 (to date) - 3,569
      2016-17 - 5,010
      2015-16 - 5,051
      2014-15 - 5,176
      2013-14 - 5,599
      2012-13 - 7,270
      2011-12 - 7,064
      2010-11 - 7,187
      2009-10 - 7,397
      2008-09 - 7,752
      2007-08 - 7,877

      Obviously WSU's departure in 2017 and Creighton's departure in 2013 had significant impacts, but there is more to the story. Below are members' average attendance figures to date for 2017-18:

      Bradley - 5007
      Illinois State - 4652
      Missouri State - 4401
      Northern Iowa - 4062
      Evansville- 3675
      Southern Illinois - 3579
      Indiana State - 3201
      Valparaiso - 2650
      Drake - 2621
      Loyola - 1839

      Now, below are historical snapshots for each current member school taken in 5 year intervals over the past 20 years:

      Bradley - 2012-13 - 6557; 2007-08 - 9600; 2002-03 - 9351; 1997-98 - 9769
      Illinois State - 2012-13 - 6541; 2007-08 - 6516; 2002-03 - 6021; 1997-98 - 8694
      Missouri State - 2012-13 - 6080; 2007-08 - 6241; 2002-03 - 6295; 1997-98 -7161
      Northern Iowa - 2012-13 - 4249; 2007-08 - 5096; 2002-03 - 3220; 1997-98 - 3564
      Evansville- 2012-13 - 4463; 2007-08 - 5486; 2002-03 - 6671; 1997-98 - 8177
      Southern Illinois - 2012-13 - 5007; 2007-08 - 6660; 2002-03 - 6567; 1997-98 - 3420
      Indiana State - 2012-13 - 5726; 2007-08 - 4289; 2002-03 - 4339; 1997-98 - 6652
      Valparaiso - 2012-13 - 3173; 2007-08 - 3666; 2002-03 - 4376; 1997-98 - 3861
      Drake - 2012-13 - 3926; 2007-08 - 6038; 2002-03 - 3969; 1997-98 - 4093
      Loyola - 2012-13 - 2278; 2007-08 - 1776; 2002-03 - 3010; 1997-98 - 2775

      Average Attendance for Current Member Institutions:

      2017-18 (to date): 3569
      2016-17: 4212
      2012-13: 4800
      2007-08: 5537
      2002-03: 5382
      1997-98: 5817


      All data above is taken from http://www.ncaa.org/championships/stati ... attendance except for YTD attendance for 2017-18, which is taken from each team's statistics page from their AD website.

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      • #48
        UNI delusion in a snapshot post from their board:

        I genuinely feel this team is much better than any other in the valley, they just haven't made the adjustment yet.
        Unexplainable and unacceptable that it's taking this long for the coaching staff to figure it out and react, but we've seen in previous seasons that they will go on a prolonged run once they do make the necessary adjustments. I see no reason why we can't do that again, and run the table in StL.
        We've played and beaten MUCH better teams than we're losing to right now. At some point the coaches will realize that when we don't wait 30 seconds into the 35 second clock to attempt to score, we can score more efficiently! At that point I have no doubt we'll dispose of the rest of the valley like the trash heap they are.

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        • Stickboy46
          Stickboy46 commented
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          might be a problem when you are waiting 30 seconds into the 35 second clock .. since you only have a 30 seconds. Would explain a lack of scoring.

        • WuDrWu
          WuDrWu commented
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          Lol exactly. The 35 second shot clock comment sent milk through the Doc's nose.

      • #49
        That 35 second shot clock will get you every time!

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        • #50
          Some teams have a 31.9 second shot clock
          "It's amazing to watch Ron slide into that open area, Fred will find him and it's straight cash homie."--HCGM

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          • WuDrWu
            WuDrWu commented
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            Winning.

          • Cdizzle
            Cdizzle commented
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            Too soon. #triggered

        • #51
          I'm gonna laugh so much if the Valley finishes with like half the conference tied for first at 10-8. And the other half will be just a game or two behind. Everyone basically .500 and no one manning up and winning the dang thing.

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          • #52
            UNI will finish 9-9 after starting 0-5 and have the RPI tie break for the 1 seed in St. Louis

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            • #53
              Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
              UNI delusion in a snapshot post from their board:

              I genuinely feel this team is much better than any other in the valley, they just haven't made the adjustment yet.
              Unexplainable and unacceptable that it's taking this long for the coaching staff to figure it out and react, but we've seen in previous seasons that they will go on a prolonged run once they do make the necessary adjustments. I see no reason why we can't do that again, and run the table in StL.
              We've played and beaten MUCH better teams than we're losing to right now. At some point the coaches will realize that when we don't wait 30 seconds into the 35 second clock to attempt to score, we can score more efficiently! At that point I have no doubt we'll dispose of the rest of the valley like the trash heap they are.


              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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              • #54
                There's good news and bad news in the Valley.

                The good news: There isn't nearly the amount of turnover in the coaching staffs as there had been.

                The bad news: Well, it's pretty much the same as the good news.

                Has any coach other than Jacobson (currently coaching the last place team) ever made an NCAA tourney? There aren't many coaches who've even made an NIT.
                The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                • #55
                  I believe Lansing is the only other coach that has been to the dance.
                  Livin the dream

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                  • #56
                    Barry should have gone but was left out by the selection committee; not sure what year that was.

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                    • #57
                      Originally posted by Wuchalk View Post
                      Barry should have gone but was left out by the selection committee; not sure what year that was.
                      2006

                      Barry has the dubious distinction of leading the team with the best RPI to even be left out. They were #21 in the RPI IIRC.
                      Its a good landing if you can walk away, its a great landing if the plane can be reused the next day.

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                      • #58
                        Barry also has (I believe) the 3rd best rpi to ever be left out. At one time he had the best 2 rpi's to not get invited.

                        Then he ended up at SIU after Lowry dug an eternal hole for that program.
                        The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                        We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                        • #59
                          From the “Are You Kidding Me?” file...

                          According to Bradley’s beat writer:

                          ”An adverse reaction to a cryotherapy treatment has sidelined two Missouri State players tonight. Reggie Scurry and Abdul Fofana developed foot blisters after a whole-body cryotherapy session. Scurry is 3rd-leading scorer at 8.9, also 4.2 rebounds. Fofana not in rotation.”

                          Valley gonna Valley...
                          78-65

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                          • #60
                            Wait there is a guy named fofana?

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