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  • This is a victory for everyone with calluses, for every Waylon Jennings fan, for everyone who believes in the Bible. This is a victory for grandparents and veterans and taxpayers everywhere. This is a victory for law enforcement and cowboys and truck drivers and housewives all across this country. This is a win for everybody who just wants a chance, an opportunity, and nothing else. It's a slap in the face to every arrogant son-of-a-***** who looks down their nose at others. Have a nice day.

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    • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
      This is a victory for everyone with calluses, for every Waylon Jennings fan, for everyone who believes in the Bible. This is a victory for grandparents and veterans and taxpayers everywhere. This is a victory for law enforcement and cowboys and truck drivers and housewives all across this country. This is a win for everybody who just wants a chance, an opportunity, and nothing else. It's a slap in the face to every arrogant son-of-a-***** who looks down their nose at others. Have a nice day.
      If you ask the wrong person, all of those people you just listed are synonymous with "bigot" "racist" "homophobe" "uneducated"

      Watching regular folks get classified that way over and over again is sad.

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      • The most current numbers I'm seeing show Hillary leading Trump by 150,000 votes nationally with 98% reporting. That's a 0.1% lead (47.6% vs 47.5%), so it could change once everything is tallied.

        I still despise Trump, but please, oh please, don't let Hillary win the popular vote. I don't want to hear all those arguments again. Once (2000) was enough.

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        • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
          Despite all the Trump propaganda of "don't believe the polls, we're winning" leading up to last night, Trump's team truly thought they would lose based on their own data. Then they won. And now they will claim "I told you so" as if they weren't surprised like the rest of us. And it will be insufferable.

          I'm now pretty much convinced that nobody knows anything, myself included.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ere/ar-AAk4GWW
          There's an old saying that a broken clock is right twice a day, too bad it doesn't apply to you, Jamar:
          Obviously the context of polling and bias are key components within discussions of presidential elections and politics.   At this point there’s virtually no-one who would dispute the inherent media bias against candidate Donald Trump. Cue the CNN audio/visual (Screen Shot) demonstration of the day: Donald Trump has used the “Heritage Foundation” as part of the think tank […]


          Also heard on CBS that Trump's analytic team, Cambridge Analytica predicted 10 days ago he would win:


          I always had you figured for a Hillary supporter, but now I'm sure. Too bad for your sour grapes. Suck it up and soldier on. You were wrong, just like you are wrong on this post.

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          • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
            The most current numbers I'm seeing show Hillary leading Trump by 150,000 votes nationally with 98% reporting. That's a 0.1% lead (48.6% vs 48.5%), so it could change once everything is tallied.

            I still despise Trump, but please, oh please, don't let Hillary win the popular vote. I don't want to hear all those arguments again. Once (2000) was enough.
            Didn't it also occur during one of Clinton's two elections?

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            • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
              Didn't it also occur during one of Clinton's two elections?
              Clinton beat Bush by almost 6 million votes, Dole by more than 8 million.

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              • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                Despite all the Trump propaganda of "don't believe the polls, we're winning" leading up to last night, Trump's team truly thought they would lose based on their own data. Then they won. And now they will claim "I told you so" as if they weren't surprised like the rest of us. And it will be insufferable.

                I'm now pretty much convinced that nobody knows anything, myself included.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ere/ar-AAk4GWW
                Maybe we should quit with the whole election polling thing. Maybe we should just have elections and report the results when the votes are counted.

                Maybe we should quit commissioning polls and running them as news stories.
                There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                  The most current numbers I'm seeing show Hillary leading Trump by 150,000 votes nationally with 98% reporting. That's a 0.1% lead (48.6% vs 48.5%), so it could change once everything is tallied.

                  I still despise Trump, but please, oh please, don't let Hillary win the popular vote. I don't want to hear all those arguments again. Once (2000) was enough.
                  Besides Bush V Gore and Clinton V Trump, there were three other times that someone won the popular vote and lost the election. This isn't the first time and Bush/Gore wasn't either.

                  The sun will rise for everyone tomorrow. Trump will have to try to get his legislative plan through congress. Although I think he has a better shot than Clinton would have, I believe he will still face headwinds, particularly in his positions on trade (which probably won him the election). The Chamber of Communists is all for fair trade and the eradication of the American middle class and congressional republicans are squarely in their pocket.

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                  • Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                    Maybe we should quit with the whole election polling thing. Maybe we should just have elections and report the results when the votes are counted.

                    Maybe we should quit commissioning polls and running them as news stories.
                    Maybe we should just admit that the margin of error is a real thing, and low probability occurrences do still happen on occasion.

                    The polls weren't really that far off for the most part. Clinton +2% to +4% nationally, and right now, she's up +0.1%.

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                    • Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                      Besides Bush V Gore and Clinton V Trump, there were three other times that someone won the popular vote and lost the election. This isn't the first time and Bush/Gore wasn't either.
                      You are correct that Bush v Gore wasn't the first, but it was the first in over 100 years. It won't be the end of the world if she wins the popular vote, but I just don't want to hear the "twice in 5 elections" whining. That's all.

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                      • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                        Most of his speeches have been very good the past few months, but I think a lot of anti-Trumpers couldnt get past his crappy debate antics to take a real look.
                        No, I still don't like Trump, but his speech last night was a good first step to not only change my opinion of him, but, more importantly, bring all Americans together. He has been handed a great opportunity with a majority in both Houses. I sincerely hope he, and the GOP, make the best of it and "Make America Great Again".

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                        • Originally posted by jdshock View Post
                          I guess everyone's roles on shockernet will be changing. I'm now tasked with posting memes and inaccurate conspiracy theories about the Trump presidency, and you all will have to try to talk me out of my delusion. It's going to be a long four years.
                          If we are as condescending as some other shocker netters were, then I would hope that you would do the same. But, we'll probably be a little more open to diplomacy ***sigh***

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                          • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                            Clinton beat Bush by almost 6 million votes, Dole by more than 8 million.
                            I think perhaps I was thinking about him not receiving the vote of a majority of the overall population.

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                            • Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                              Stephanopolous was the most even keeled media member I watched. He did well for a liberal honk.
                              I thought Chuck Todd did a nice job, at least during my surfing.

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                              • Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post
                                If we are as condescending as some other shocker netters were, then I would hope that you would do the same. But, we'll probably be a little more open to diplomacy ***sigh***
                                I think I'm about the only Obama supporter around these parts, so I imagine I'm the condescending shockernetter to whom you refer

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