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Originally posted by ShockCrazy View PostBut that is based on the assumption they actually registered. Also vastly overstating people's ability to get a driver's license with registration using an out of state license: https://www.ksrevenue.org/dovproof.html. Those are the requirements in Kansas to get your first Kansas license, which no matter your status requires an item from list A and there is an entirely different process for non-citizens. I expect most states have this type of policy. EDIT: Here's Colorado's policy: https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/dmv/new-colorado-0 Similar for first time state applicants.
Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View PostIf you have facts to dispute whether it is possible to get an ID in another state based on already having a California ID, please present them. I'm not sure why you are taking this into conspiracy theory territory when there are much simpler scenarios to explore.
Khan claimed that not enough people move for this topic to be relevant (despite reality that millions of Californians move out of state each year)
ShockCrazy, you backed Khan up that the numbers were too small to matter.
I'm not sure why you guys didn't jump straight to discussing the difficulty of converting to other state IDs. That probably should have been the focus of discussion all along.
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Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View PostI think you have a point regarding turning a California ID into another state's ID. Funny thing is that I asked about this from the beginning.
Khan made up a strawman about people moving just so they could vote in other states (nobody claimed they did)
Khan claimed that not enough people move for this topic to be relevant (despite reality that millions of Californians move out of state each year)
ShockCrazy, you backed Khan up that the numbers were too small to matter.
I'm not sure why you guys didn't jump straight to discussing the difficulty of converting to other state IDs. That probably should have been the focus of discussion all along.
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Originally posted by ShockCrazy View PostAgreed, there are certainly non-citizens who vote and yes it's certainly more than the number who have been found guilty and even have been prosecuted. But until a single voter id law is presented with a provision for funding and accessibility of FREE state identification, I'm going to assume the real purpose of the law is a poll tax/voter suppression.
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Originally posted by pinstripers View PostWhy would anybody assume that?
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Originally posted by pinstripers View PostEverybody goes batshit crazy cause the Russians might have voted for Trump, but nobody cares if Hillary gets votes from non-Americans.
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Originally posted by pinstripers View PostI think everyone who is a citizen should vote. (they don't) You think requiring an ID would cause less of them to vote? (it might, maybe, but that's just a guess) You think some illegals voted for trump. (I doubt it).
Also it will absolutely reduce the vote. If one person cannot get the identification for financial or time reasons, it has reduced the vote. And it is absolutely the case.
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Originally posted by pinstripers View PostWow. Good guess.
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Originally posted by ShockCrazy View PostThen honestly, why are you here? Isn't the point of a political forum to have discourse and share information and knowledge to help understand policy that shapes our country? If you aren't going to bother learning, you aren't going to bother supporting your arguments, and you don't care to have evolving opinions, what is the point?
Or beer.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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