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Originally posted by MoValley John
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Well ... he ALSO signed an executive order ...Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille! -
Because you were, and it was proven so. :)Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
So, umm, according to you then how does it reflect on your leadership skills if you BOTH acknowledge that your organization came under attack previously and you need to do something about it (per your "Executive Order" comment) AND you don't know it's currently happening at the same time (because his systems were being exploited for a YEAR)?Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
sourceThe hack that resulted in the loss of these records began in May 2014, according to OPM Director Katherine Archuleta's testimony before Congress. It was not discovered until May 2015.
MuuhAHAHAH muhahahAHAHAHAHA MUHAHAHAhahahahaaha
While I enjoy poking fun at you, in seriousness, we do both agree that Obama's leadership skills should not seriously be in question for being hacked. But neither should Trump's leadership skills be in question over being hacked.
The current hardware and de facto standard network protocols of the global infrastructure make solving this problem nearly impossible. The problems can be mitigated and substantially reduced -- with extreme diligence and expense -- but not eliminated.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Someone should start a catering service near the Capitol called "Executive Hors d'oeuvres"
Just saying.Comment
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The timing of the breach couldn't have been any better. Shocka really put the screws to Trump over a security beach at his company that Trump himself couldn't have prevented. He pointed out that a security breach made the Donald unqualified to be president. Shock went all out! Shocka pointed out that this is his area of expertise.
Then BOOM! (Kaboom to all you Northern Iowa fans)
Rlh04d would be in this fight, defending Obama, calling my little joke partisan, but he finds himself with bigger things to worry about. As one of the 21 million people that have had background checks performed, he has had his personal information hacked. He's busy calling his credit card companies, making sure his bank accounts are balanced and trying to call and subscribe to Lifelock.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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Have we confirmed that a Republican candidate isn't to blame for the hacking, though? Maybe Trump did it.Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
You can always go the route of "If Bush hadn't angered the hackers, they wouldn't have hacked. They are truly good, deep down. They just should have been negotiated with."Comment
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Maybe not. My manager's wife works for the state department so I have a little (very little, as a lot of the information taken was classified and most of the research I performed was online). The system in question that was compromised was a database that stored security clearance credentials for all non-defense (i.e. NO military and spy agencies) employees. IIRC, Rlh04d is in the Army, and as such, he would not be affected as the information was stored on a separate server. That would include NASA and their contractors, state department and so forth. This is assuming that he has a top-secret clearance, he's never told us, so we have no reason to know.Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
Since we're picking over leftovers and this also seems to be lost in the translation, the Inspector General for OPM (i.e. the auditor) tried to get those servers closed down, he referred to them as a 'Chinese hackers dream' prior to the intrusion. That means that someone was aware and trying to do their job, but they got shut down by the higher ups in OPM. Trump and his company were totally unaware they even had a problem.
Ignorance (Trump/Trump's CIO) vs. Incompetence (Obama/OPM/Archuletta).Comment
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I remember long, long ago, when Bill Gates made the announcement that his server OS was more secure than Unix.Originally posted by Dave Stalwart View Post
Things haven't been the same for him ever since.
The moral of the story is don't tempt fate with your words and actions. Kinda' like the guy in Orange, Texas who wanted to go for a swim was warned there was a big alligator hanging out at the marina where he was drinking. His last words were "F@#& the alligators!"Comment
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Well, it looks like someone FINALLY held Archuleta responsible:
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??? She resigned. She sent the resignation. Regardless of actual back story, based on the resignation, she held herself accountable. Nobody else held her responsible. Not Obama, not Trump.Originally posted by shocka khan View PostThere are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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From the article: Senator Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat and a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, applauded Archuleta’s move.
“This is the right move for the agency and all those affected by the breach,” he said in a statement. “The focus now needs to be on fixing the problem and protecting those impacted.”
Looks like the Virginia Democrat want to hold nobody responsible.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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Which one? There's 3 now (George, W and now Jeb) or 4 if you count Ma Bush.Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
Since Ma Bush is known to be explosive, I want to blame her, but only if she goes off like a Saturn rocket and the whole thing's taped and uploaded to You Tube.Comment
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You are technically correct and I am not, but no one was privy to the discussions that were going on behind closed doors. She might have been told to resign or face a firing squad.Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
Resigning keeps your retirement benefits intact and could also allow her to collect any bonuses due, as well as comp time, ungranted vacation and so forth. Facing a firing squad means losing all of that.
It also makes for good press and allows the people in OPM to focus more on their daily work and less on a media-driven circus.
Me, I'd rather resign, draw my retirement and go somewhere to count my money. Heck, I'd quit right now if the price was right.Comment
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Let's be intellectually honest: It was "Ignorance (Trump Organization) vs Ignorance + Incompetence (Obama Organization)". There is no math identity I am aware of where A > A + B for all positive values of A and B.Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
As has already been demonstrated, ignorance in this situation is explanatory and not at all unusual. Incompetence is a whole 'nother matter.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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If we are going to be truely intellectually honest, let's call Shocka's behavior what it is. Saul Alinsky. Shocka's posts are nothing more than him using the Saul Alinsky playbook.Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
Sometimes, using the Saul Alinsky playbook bites you, but one of the rules in the playbook is to keep going. Shocka does that without fail.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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