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  • #46
    Originally posted by ShockRef View Post
    Let me try and understand your warped thought process here.

    You think the Doc is making as ass of himself, but you support an egomaniac who is risking countless lives, money we don't have to spend and who knows what in the most volatile area of the world in some insane attempt to save face?

    All over some idiotic comments?

    Look, we were all young once and made some stupid comments (and even tried to defend them), but you aren't that young so what the hell are you trying to prove here? You can't seriously be that blind to believe this is good idea and will serve a purpose to the American people.

    OBO is an idiot consumed with his own ego and proves it on a daily basis. Even his most ardent supporters are jumping off the ship on this one.

    And you are sticking with him on this debacle?

    Really?

    That is all.
    I think if you read the entire thread including likes you have your answer. Now if we do some limited action I understand it but that doesnt mean i support it, just like I didnt support the war in Iraq. That is all.


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    • #47
      Originally posted by kcshocker11 View Post
      I think if you read the entire thread including likes you have your answer. Now if we do some limited action I understand it but that doesnt mean i support it, just like I didnt support the war in Iraq. That is all.

      I've read the entire thread, although I haven't a clue what you mean by "including likes", but can you please explain what you mean by "Now if we do some limited action I understand it"?

      What exactly is it that you understand? I'm being serious.

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      • #48
        Oh my gosh.....you cannot make up this man's press conference in Sweden.

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        • #49
          Even most of my liberal friends have backed away from Obama. I'm amused at how well kc stands by him and says nothing.

          And "limited action" does nothing good. It's not going to take out chemical weapons and it's not going to deter Assad or his Iranian buddies. If anything, it's just going to piss them and Russia off and escalate the whole thing. I'm not a big fan of getting involved in situations like these anyway, but if you're going to get involved, there has to be a clear purpose and goal and it should probably be to overthrow a mad man. But in this case, nobody wants to get that involved and nobody is sure that those who would take over would be any better. So why even do anything?

          Although, our beloved president does have a history of siding with terrorists. Just look at Egypt
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          • #50
            Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
            Even most of my liberal friends have backed away from Obama. I'm amused at how well kc stands by him and says nothing.

            And "limited action" does nothing good. It's not going to take out chemical weapons and it's not going to deter Assad or his Iranian buddies. If anything, it's just going to piss them and Russia off and escalate the whole thing. I'm not a big fan of getting involved in situations like these anyway, but if you're going to get involved, there has to be a clear purpose and goal and it should probably be to overthrow a mad man. But in this case, nobody wants to get that involved and nobody is sure that those who would take over would be any better. So why even do anything?

            Although, our beloved president does have a history of siding with terrorists. Just look at Egypt
            Really where did you get your intelligence info?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by kcshocker11 View Post
              I think if you read the entire thread including likes you have your answer. Now if we do some limited action I understand it but that doesnt mean i support it, just like I didnt support the war in Iraq. That is all.


              OK 11,

              Look, there are things we absolutely agree on.

              You like the Shocks, so do I

              Your signature quote is awesome. Rowdy Roddy Piper had one of the best movie quotes ever.

              See, we don't always have opposing views.


              But your blind support of the biggest tool since Jimmy C is nauseating.
              Especially in light of his pending biggest misfire (here's a clue - it isn't going to be "some limited action"). Once the **** hits the fan, it will scatter all over and cover every wall.

              When was the last time there was just a 'little bit of limited action' in a Middle East conflict?

              That's like saying the tsunami that hit Indonesia was "just a little wave".

              That is all.
              Above all, make the right call.

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              • #52
                Gotta admit ya made me laugh Ref. But the biggest tool was W followed closely by Mr. Reagan. As far as Syria you know how I feel. I also dont have access to the intelligence briefing and international talk going on behind closed doors.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by kcshocker11 View Post
                  Gotta admit ya made me laugh Ref. But the biggest tool was W followed closely by Mr. Reagan. As far as Syria you know how I feel. I also dont have access to the intelligence briefing and international talk going on behind closed doors.
                  You know, a lot of people have issues with President Bush, and while I think history will be kinder to him than current political winds, you lose all credibility when you throw Reagan into the mix. That's just blind stupidity.

                  And you could have stopped your sentence after "I don't have access to any intelligence".

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                  • #54
                    I think many of the conservative/libertarian posters on this board will agree that Bush wasn't the greatest president, but I agree with Doc that history will look more favorably on him than the current media.

                    Reagan however is the best thing this country has had in the White House in my lifetime. He wasn't perfect, but he was far better than anyone we've had since.

                    And judging by your latest comments, you must be the most extreme liberal I've ever had any interaction with and that's impressive. I have some liberal friends that amaze me, but I think you'd even shock some of them.
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                    • #55
                      I like Bobby Darin but he ain't **** compared to these brothers in arms. Push come to shove these guys will be the first in the fight.



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                      • #56
                        No President, of any party, has ever (ever) put himself into such a lose/lose/lose situation.

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                        • #57
                          All you really need to know about Syria...

                          ... is Assad is fighting against the Muslim Brotherhood. He hates them to the core.

                          He recently commented after hearing the Muslim Brotherhood compared to a common pig, that is was an insult to the pig.


                          Now, we all know how the Muslim Brotherhood regime worked out in Egypt. Why, it was an unparallelled success and Egypt is in fantastic shape today!

                          Lets also remember who supported the initial takeover from Hosni Mubarak.

                          That's right - KC11's good friend, Barack Hussein Obama.


                          And now he wants us to support his 'little intervention' in Syria against... that's right kiddies. You guessed it.

                          Got the picture now?

                          That is all.
                          Above all, make the right call.

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                          • #58
                            Here is President Obama's speech transcript from October 2, 2002 about Iraq. "I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars."
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                            • #59
                              From Obama speech today in Sweeden before he headed out golfing. It is like we have the Obama who escaped from Bizarro World here. He is the Bizzaro World Harry Truman - "The buck never stopped on my desk"

                              “I didn’t set a red line, the world set a red line,” Obama said. “My credibility’s not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’s credibility’s on the line."

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by _kai_ View Post
                                Here is President Obama's speech transcript from October 2, 2002 about Iraq. "I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars."
                                That made me laugh. You can argue if Iraq was worth it or justified or whatever, but there was a lot more support for it than the Syrian Civil War between Evil and Evil. At least Iraq had a clear objective.

                                Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                                From Obama speech today in Sweeden before he headed out golfing. It is like we have the Obama who escaped from Bizarro World here. He is the Bizzaro World Harry Truman - "The buck never stopped on my desk"
                                “I didn’t set a red line, the world set a red line,” Obama said. “My credibility’s not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’s credibility’s on the line."
                                Is he really trying to say that HE never set a red line? This guy is an incompetent fool.
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