Harris

[Shockm]

I'm not one to claim that every single liberal idea is "socialist". When I say her voting record is heavy "socialist", I mean it. It's not "liberal". It's a straight line vote for any Marxist bill/thought/idea/concept that she can get her hands on.

Her campaign slogan should be: "DIVIDE, DIVIDE, DIVIDE!"

There is no unification, middle ground, or moderate thought in her voting record.

But don't take my word for it, the non-partisan organization "GovTrack" ranked her as THE MOST liberal Democrat senator: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/mem...port-card/2020

I didn't say it well, but my point was that Barak moved the Democrat Party significantly toward the left, and then Biden followed it up with even more toward the left, and Harris would move it even further. Asiseeit says it well, when he brings up the new definition of equity (equality). Everyone should end up in the same place, even if they begin with less.

[ShockerPrez]

I didn't say it well, but my point was that Barak moved the Democrat Party significantly toward the left, and then Biden followed it up with even more toward the left, and Harris would move it even further. Asiseeit says it well, when he brings up the new definition of equity (equality). Everyone should end up in the same place, even if they begin with less.

I think the retort to these clowns when they talk about equity of outcomes is, "Nothing is stopping you from coughing up your excess millions to start evening up the wealth gap! You want equity so bad, put your money where your bullshit is!"

[Shockm]

Another point I could have added is that not all Democrats share their (past two Democrat Presidents and Democrat leaders such as Harris, Sanders, etc) extreme views. However, the Cabinet members chosen by each President has had extreme views on everything, and they are the ones who make quasi-court like decisions that affect everything in American life.

Our only saving Grace is that the SCOTUS put at least, some dampers on the powers of the independent agencies (decisions of the Executive branch), saying that Congress needs to be more clear when writing laws instead of bureaucrats making every decision.

[1972Shocker]

[Atxshoxfan]

The parodies and jokes are great but, the best ads against her will be replays of her actual views and statements. Many folks who think she is great right now, just have no idea of her radical views. They need to see her giving those views because they won't believe it otherwise.

[WuDrWu]

The parodies and jokes are great but, the best ads against her will be replays of her actual views and statements. Many folks who think she is great right now, just have no idea of her radical views. They need to see her giving those views because they won't believe it otherwise.

Republicans that think they've won are wrong. They MUST battle and continue to attack her record at each and every turn. And let's face facts, Trump picked Vance because he thought it was over and wanted to run up the score in the upper midwest. That has backfired. He needs to get back to what has worked, and attack Harris' policies, not her heritage etc.

If he hasn't learned his lesson, he's doomed to repeat his mistakes (and loss).

[pinstripers]

I like Vance but it's a stupid pick.

[Atxshoxfan]

I like Vance but it's a stupid pick.

I can't say I dislike or like the Vance pick. I really don't know much about him. I was kind of expecting Vivek, Scott or Donald's to help pick up more minority votes, but in hindsight, that is exactly why the Dems have Kamala as VP. So I'll give Trump a brownie point for not playing the DEI game plus another couple brownie points for selecting a self made man, not a deeply rooted politician.

[ShockerPrez]

Even with Harris, it shouldnt matter. She is awful. Once her warts are shown, she is going to be lower than Biden. Her speaking and the way she talks is going to alienate every divorced husband as she is going to remind them of their ex.

But she's a Dem, and Trump is still not liked by a majority of people. But his policies are good. And he has a good record and experience. And if he just hammers policies and her record on the border, he can still win handily.

Someday, I hope people in the inner city reject the democratic machines that drive 80% of the democrats voting block. Until that happens, its always going to be close to a coin flip.

[pinstripers]

I can't say I dislike or like the Vance pick. I really don't know much about him. I was kind of expecting Vivek, Scott or Donald's to help pick up more minority votes, but in hindsight, that is exactly why the Dems have Kamala as VP. So I'll give Trump a brownie point for not playing the DEI game plus another couple brownie points for selecting a self made man, not a deeply rooted politician.

Harris will absolutely be given a white male, but one who brings a swing state, probably Arizona or Pennsylvania.

[asiseeit]

Those who make the rules and count the votes win

[shock]

Trump could have gone with Youngkin in a move for 40+ states. But to quote someone I can’t remember, picking Vance is a “**** it, let’s ride,” pick. This isn’t a VP that will moderate Trump. Vance is Doc Holliday to Trumps Wyatt Earp. They don’t need to grab moderate voters. This was specifically done to get out the right vote and energize the base, and get **** done in DC when they are elected.

[pinstripers]

Trump could have gone with Youngkin in a move for 40+ states. But to quote someone I can’t remember, picking Vance is a “**** it, let’s ride,” pick. This isn’t a VP that will moderate Trump. Vance is Doc Holliday to Trumps Wyatt Earp. They don’t need to grab moderate voters. This was specifically done to get out the right vote and energize the base, and get **** done in DC when they are elected.

IF they are elected

[shock]

IF they are elected

No, I said when.

Why the push for Harris if they are keeping Biden in office? Wouldn’t the best campaign be to see what she could do from the Oval Office? Incumbency is powerful.

Nobody, including dems, wants a Harris presidency. This was done to shore up the down ticket and stop the hemorrhaging in the party. That’s it. They have conceded the WH. By presenting sacrificial candidate with a sacrificial VP, they lose the WH for 4 years without losing a promising future candidate.

Instead, they are turning their focus to the down ticket races and doing what they can for those candidates. The worst thing that can happen to the dems is a red wave. Lose WH, capital hill, and multiple states and the party gets set back and likely loses the next presidency as well, setting up a likely 12 years before the pendulum swings back. Lose the WH, but invest in young promising politicians and the dems come back in 2 years pushing a new, moderate candidate pool for president and they start to set up the future of the party instead of running on the vapors of LBJ and the Clinton’s.

They will do just enough to make it look like they are fighting to keep up blue voters morale so they turn out where needed to ensure down ticket success, but it won’t be enough to overcome Trump.

[pinstripers]

No, I said when.

Why the push for Harris if they are keeping Biden in office? Wouldn’t the best campaign be to see what she could do from the Oval Office? Incumbency is powerful.

Nobody, including dems, wants a Harris presidency. This was done to shore up the down ticket and stop the hemorrhaging in the party. That’s it. They have conceded the WH. By presenting sacrificial candidate with a sacrificial VP, they lose the WH for 4 years without losing a promising future candidate.

Instead, they are turning their focus to the down ticket races and doing what they can for those candidates. The worst thing that can happen to the dems is a red wave. Lose WH, capital hill, and multiple states and the party gets set back and likely loses the next presidency as well, setting up a likely 12 years before the pendulum swings back. Lose the WH, but invest in young promising politicians and the dems come back in 2 years pushing a new, moderate candidate pool for president and they start to set up the future of the party instead of running on the vapors of LBJ and the Clinton’s.

They will do just enough to make it look like they are fighting to keep up blue voters morale so they turn out where needed to ensure down ticket success, but it won’t be enough to overcome Trump.

I hope you are right, but I don't see it