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  • #91
    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
    just another example of clueless nitwits. Had this been Bush ....
    Speaking of Bush,

    Bush Apologizes To Iraq Prime Minister Over Quran 'Target Practice'

    Of course President Obama did something similar.

    Obama apologizes for Koran burning in Afghanistan

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    • #92
      Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
      Speaking of Bush,
      LOL, still can't hold your own accountable. You screw up and it is bush fault.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
        LOL, still can't hold your own accountable. You screw up and it is bush fault.
        LOL, probably because the R's never seemed to hold Bush accountable either. Has anyone ever thought that maybe it's not about blaming Bush, but instead it's about reminding people that constantly criticizing Obama for doing the same things Bush did is a little hypocritical?
        "It's amazing to watch Ron slide into that open area, Fred will find him and it's straight cash homie."--HCGM

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Rocky Mountain Shock View Post
          LOL, probably because the R's never seemed to hold Bush accountable either. Has anyone ever thought that maybe it's not about blaming Bush, but instead it's about reminding people that constantly criticizing Obama for doing the same things Bush did is a little hypocritical?
          Not when a lot of people on here criticized Bush for a number of poor decision he made.
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          • #95
            Pretty sure even Paul Ryan said mistakes were made by President Bush. And lots of people have said that, lots of GOP.

            But none of that really matters. What MATTERS is "Are we on a path to fix what any sane person understands....that we are rapidly approaching a fiscal cliff".

            If you think we are, then you aren't smart.

            If you think we aren't and that Obama is going to fix it, see above.

            If you think we aren't and Obama is going to tax the rich to fix it, again, see above.

            If you think we aren't and we should at least try someone else, then the country has a chance.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
              But none of that really matters. What MATTERS is "Are we on a path to fix what any sane person understands....that we are rapidly approaching a fiscal cliff".
              From what I've heard, the democrats are going to let the economy go over the "cliff" by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire at the end of the year. That will be bad if it stays over the cliff.

              What the democrats plan to do to is to bring up their own tax cuts which are weighed more toward the middle class from what I've heard. They say that Republican will have to support it because of the pledge they've made with Grover Norquist. Whether that's what they actually do is anyone's guess (meaning democrats doing a new tax cut bill and republicans actually voting for it).

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              • #97
                It's nothing more than class warfare and dividing the nation, yet again (the Democrat game they love to play), and it FIXES NOTHING.

                NOTHING!!! CAN YOU HEAR AND UNDERSTAND THAT???!!!!

                TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THE WEALTHY AND YOU FIX NOTHING!

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                • #98
                  My perception is that they are not trying to fix anything, but that taking everything from the wealthy IS the goal.

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                  • #99
                    Bernake is trying his best to bail out Barack Hussein today. I'm sure he'll get a fruit basket from Michelle Hussein. He won't be getting a large Coke in New York though.

                    Is there no end to what these people want to have control over? Do we want people telling us how much soda we can drink and printing us into oblivion?

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                    • Originally posted by Rocky Mountain Shock View Post
                      LOL, probably because the R's never seemed to hold Bush accountable either. Has anyone ever thought that maybe it's not about blaming Bush, but instead it's about reminding people that constantly criticizing Obama for doing the same things Bush did is a little hypocritical?
                      Looking back, not knowing any better, you would have to conclude that Clinton was the Republican and Bush was a Democrat. There is no hypocrisy among honest conservatives.

                      Ron Paul and the Tea Party movement are popular because of the expansion of government by both parties over the last decade.
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                      -John Wooden

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                      • Originally posted by wu_shizzle View Post
                        Looking back, not knowing any better, you would have to conclude that Clinton was the Republican and Bush was a Democrat. There is no hypocrisy among honest conservatives.

                        Ron Paul and the Tea Party movement are popular because of the expansion of government by both parties over the last decade.
                        I have to agree. There is no arguing rational thoughts such as these.

                        Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                        It's nothing more than class warfare and dividing the nation, yet again (the Democrat game they love to play), and it FIXES NOTHING.

                        NOTHING!!! CAN YOU HEAR AND UNDERSTAND THAT???!!!!

                        TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THE WEALTHY AND YOU FIX NOTHING!
                        Wow. I have to disagree with this idea of "class warfare" and Obama "taking everything from the wealthy." Let me guess, you also believe the moon landing was a giant cover up.
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                        • Obama is ALL ABOUT class warfare. Why else would he constantly say that those who pay the vast majority in taxes need to have their rates increased so they can "pay their fair share". Then want to do nothing to fix the handout problem we have and want to give those people even more?
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                          • that

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                            • Class warfare is not wanting the rich to pay the same tax rate they paid in the 1990s. Where was all the crying about class warfare back then?

                              People who pay the "vast majority of taxes" (in nominal dollars) also have the vast majority of the wealth, have the vast majority of the income, use the vast majority of the resources, and enjoy the vast majority of the political power in this country. Makes logical sense to me.

                              Ok, we have freeloaders taking advantage of our social safety nets. I admit that, and it angers me. We should do something about it. But just as much, we have trust fund babies who haven't worked a damn day in their lives who are paying a lower tax rate than my "working class" parents did, who supported a family of four on no more than $30,000 a year. Tell me what's fair about that?

                              Wanna get rid of the freeloaders, fine by me. But holy cow, let's not hold the rich people up on some benevolent pedestal and blindly believe that if we make their lives easier, they'll reward us "little people" with jobs or whatever. Somehow the Republican Party--which used to be a party of common sense--has practically brainwashed its voters into thinking that what's good for the wealthy is good for everyone else, and if we just pander to them we'll all be better off. Guess what, rich people aren't "job creators", consumers are. Let's gear our economic policies towards them. That's not "class warfare," that's "common sense."

                              We don't have a "class warfare" problem in this country. We have a "class envy" problem in this country.
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                              • Define rich?

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