WSU needs to bring back football - political version

[Stickboy46]

I'm only a liberal when compared to right-wing whackos!
You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?
Perhaps you can offer evidence of something they promoted (other than fascist politicians), that didn't have their name on it?
They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!
As to the history. I guess you're talking about when we had a upwardly mobile and vibrant middle class?

Most will agree on here that I am FAR from a "right-wing whacko" but comparing KII to the manufacturing companies in Wichita (that are union) .. KII comes out drastically ahead in pay. I will say benefits are better at the union jobs .. so I'll give them that. But no where near enough to make up for the difference in pay. Union jobs are good at raising the floor of the pay scale while also lowering the top at the same time. Smashing everyone into the same bracket no matter how good or bad they are at their job. Lived both of those lives for a decade plus each.

[Stickboy46]

Please get a room, guys. You political fight is spoiling the fight over whether WSU should resurrect a football program.

This entire topic seems a little out of place in the Basketball Forum.

To be fair .. talking about WSU bringing back football is about as pointless as arguing about politics .. so as long as it stays contains in here .. doesn't really matter lol

[Shockm]

I'm only a liberal when compared to right-wing whackos!
You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?
Perhaps you can offer evidence of something they promoted (other than fascist politicians), that didn't have their name on it?
They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!
As to the history. I guess you're talking about when we had a upwardly mobile and vibrant middle class?

This is getting totally away from bringing back football, but since you brought up politics, I'll go there.

You've proven that you are a Modern day liberal because liberals throw these terms (fascism and non-democratic form of government) around quite freely, and aren't sure what they are talking about. The only people trying to take away our democratic freedoms are the FBI, CIA, and what Vivek Ramaswamy refers to as the 4th branch of government (we are only supposed to have 3 branches), which is the bureaucracy, that is the citizen part of Biden's Executive Branch (Executive branch only has the power to execute laws, not make new ones) who is trying to take away the House of Reps and Senate's power to make laws and the power of the purse.

[SHOCKvalue]

The Kochs aren’t fascist; they’re libertarian. I mean you noticed the Kochs were an enemy to Trump and MAGA, right? Did you sleep through that?

The divide between fascist and libertarian is as wide as left is from right. (Look up the political compass and note there is an up/down axis to political persuasion in addition to left and right.). The Kochs generally donate to causes and individuals who advocate for small government that has as little influence on the day to day life of citizens as possible. It’s an ideology so far from fascism that it is basically it’s antonym.

Here, let’s make it simple:

Authoritarian right - fascism, Nazi Germany, a small segment of the GOP probably still falls here

Authoritarian left - most if not all of the modern day progressive left, centralized government that controls or shapes much of the daily life of its subjects, communism

Libertarian right - Ron/Rand Paul types, most of the modern GOP falls somewhere here but not by much (diet, low cal libertarianism), anarchy at its very extreme

Libertarian left - classic liberalism, no major current political segment in US really lives here anymore, maybe some pot smokers in their 80’s listening to Jerry Garcia on the record player

[wichshock65]

I'm only a liberal when compared to right-wing whackos!
You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?
Perhaps you can offer evidence of something they promoted (other than fascist politicians), that didn't have their name on it?
They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!
As to the history. I guess you're talking about when we had a upwardly mobile and vibrant middle class?

[rjl]

I love it when Shockernutters opine on "liberals," "woke," and the general decay of society caused by things that are scary and different. The best is when it's mixed with opinions on "safe spaces," as the irony is clearly missed.

[ShockerFever]

I love it when Shockernutters opine on "liberals," "woke," and the general decay of society caused by things that are scary and different. The best is when it's mixed with opinions on "safe spaces," as the irony is clearly missed.

How come “right wing whackos” didn’t get brought up in your post? Much more acceptable, amirite?

[Shockm]

I love it when Shockernutters opine on "liberals," "woke," and the general decay of society caused by things that are scary and different. The best is when it's mixed with opinions on "safe spaces," as the irony is clearly missed.

Is an example of what you are mentioning, like when a vaginoplasty is performed on a 12 year old male? Just who is the nut? You or I?

[Veritas]

Mods, can you move all of these political discussions to the political forum?

[JJClamdip]

Prove me wrong

My god this f u c k i n g horse has been beaten to death.

Tower to “Bleed Yellow” there is zero interest in the big time booster base or it would have been revived long ago.

[Shocker_Power]

Please give one detail where "they" are taking your vote away. Your statement is BEYOND moronic. Literally nobody's vote is taken away in this country.

Also, choosing not to vote, or more correctly stated, not caring about your civic responsibility enough to engage and care about the process (wherever you may decide to support and vote) is ABSOLUTELY your right, and one that IS being taken away by the left.

So when you talk about destroying democracy, understand we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. Everyone CAN be part of the process. That doesn't mean everyone will or SHOULD be. If someone chooses not to be a part of the process, it is NOT up to you, or anyone else to force them to be a part of the process (vote).

You're wrong. It's completely up to you if you want to continue to be wrong.

Sorry, I didn't mean to trigger you! But I am curious, and you don't have to answer this, has anyone inquired as to your whereabouts on 01/06/21?

[Shocker_Power]

This has to be a joke. The Koch family has donated and put money towards many many many things that you do not know about that don’t have their name on it. You sir need to check yourself.

So many "things" that nobody can ever cite them!

[BostonWu]

When it's the off-season with nothing to talk about the political extremes on both sides hijack this joint... every single year

[Shock Top]

So many "things" that nobody can ever cite them!

So you call the issue to question with no evidence, and now tell others they need to provide you with some?

Makes sense.

[pinstripers]

I'm kinda on the fence about bringing back football