WSU needs to bring back football - political version

[Shocker_Power]

I don't think it's a drop in the bucket. Once built, it also creates an opportunity for various ways to generate revenue. The projections for running a football team, back when THE Bardo was talking about it, was in the single digit millions I think. Getting a new stadium built is the biggest hurdle.

If they truly generated income Walmart would have some. All stadiums/arenas are ultimately government/taxpayer subsidized.

[C0|dB|00ded]

If they truly generated income Walmart would have some. All stadiums/arenas are ultimately government/taxpayer subsidized.

Revenue, not income. Every university operates at a loss on paper doesn't it?

Ticket sales, concessions, advertising, stadium rental, etc.

If we get somebody to "donate" the stadium, we get to earn from it.

It'll never be profitable. This is a given.

[pogo]

Good piece of land across K-96 south of Koch. Fairmount Park is a larger footprint than Cessna Stadium as well.

[abdullah_sharif]

That is correct. His nickname isn't "Chuckles" for nothing. A very rich unsalted cracker.

what’d you call him

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Didn’t read anything above, and hopefully someone has said this:

Its too late. That ship has sailed without us. We will never offer enough to get into any of the major conferences. So FB will be a drain of resources.

We need to invest everything we can to improving and updating every sport we have, and adding ones we don’t. Make ourselves a very attractive program to partner with the OU/OSU/Colorado/Nebraska group for Olympic sports.

[ShockTalk]

Didn’t read anything above, and hopefully someone has said this:

Its too late. That ship has sailed without us. We will never offer enough to get into any of the major conferences. So FB will be a drain of resources.

We need to invest everything we can to improving and updating every sport we have, and adding ones we don’t. Make ourselves a very attractive program to partner with the OU/OSU/Colorado/Nebraska group for Olympic sports.

Might add Missouri and Arkansas (KSU/KU a given).

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Might add Missouri and Arkansas (KSU/KU a given).

SEC schools close enough geographically it won’t matter. They will stay together unless a better offer comes.

[WuDrWu]

And in some cases it is entirely about keeping the family/corporate name out in the public eye.

Ah, the modern day liberal. Find anything to complain about those that do and apply it across the board as evil. Give me what I want, damn it, you can afford it!


Do you have any idea how many 6 figure jobs KI is responsible for, just in Wichita, and what that does for our economy?


Yet somehow he's responsible, because he's wealthy, for giving people a shiny toy to play with and because he doesn't (with this shiny toy) somehow he's a lesser human?


Many of you need to go back and read your history about what happened in this country when the majority vilified the corporate class.


Too many in our population have lost focus on what the parameters of their "rights" are.

[Shocker_Power]

Ah, the modern day liberal. Find anything to complain about those that do and apply it across the board as evil. Give me what I want, damn it, you can afford it!


Do you have any idea how many 6 figure jobs KI is responsible for, just in Wichita, and what that does for our economy?


Yet somehow he's responsible, because he's wealthy, for giving people a shiny toy to play with and because he doesn't (with this shiny toy) somehow he's a lesser human?


Many of you need to go back and read your history about what happened in this country when the majority vilified the corporate class.


Too many in our population have lost focus on what the parameters of their "rights" are.

I'm only a liberal when compared to right-wing whackos!
You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?
Perhaps you can offer evidence of something they promoted (other than fascist politicians), that didn't have their name on it?
They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!
As to the history. I guess you're talking about when we had a upwardly mobile and vibrant middle class?

[WuDrWu]

I'm only a liberal when compared to right-wing whackos!
You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?
Perhaps you can offer evidence of something they promoted (other than fascist politicians), that didn't have their name on it?
They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!
As to the history. I guess you're talking about when we had a upwardly mobile and vibrant middle class?

You, unfortunately, are one of the lost out there. There's little, if any, hope for your rehabilitation.

You have no clue what their motivation is....but why shouldn't they put their name to it? Just because "they" do, that doesn't mean it's the motivation (typical gaslighting technique).


"Jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies"......... wow.

[WuDrWu]

They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!

Please give one detail where "they" are taking your vote away. Your statement is BEYOND moronic. Literally nobody's vote is taken away in this country.

Also, choosing not to vote, or more correctly stated, not caring about your civic responsibility enough to engage and care about the process (wherever you may decide to support and vote) is ABSOLUTELY your right, and one that IS being taken away by the left.

So when you talk about destroying democracy, understand we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. Everyone CAN be part of the process. That doesn't mean everyone will or SHOULD be. If someone chooses not to be a part of the process, it is NOT up to you, or anyone else to force them to be a part of the process (vote).

You're wrong. It's completely up to you if you want to continue to be wrong.

[Aargh]

Please get a room, guys. You political fight is spoiling the fight over whether WSU should resurrect a football program.

This entire topic seems a little out of place in the Basketball Forum.

[Topshock]

Ah, the modern day liberal. Find anything to complain about those that do and apply it across the board as evil. Give me what I want, damn it, you can afford it!


Do you have any idea how many 6 figure jobs KI is responsible for, just in Wichita, and what that does for our economy?


Yet somehow he's responsible, because he's wealthy, for giving people a shiny toy to play with and because he doesn't (with this shiny toy) somehow he's a lesser human?


Many of you need to go back and read your history about what happened in this country when the majority vilified the corporate class.


Too many in our population have lost focus on what the parameters of their "rights" are.

Atlas Shrugged anyone? Everyone should read it!

[Shock Top]

You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?

Cities around the country would bend over backwards to land KII and all those “jobs that pay considerably less” to stimulate their local economy.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I'm only a liberal when compared to right-wing whackos!
You mean those jobs that pay considerably less than the union jobs at manufacturing companies?
Perhaps you can offer evidence of something they promoted (other than fascist politicians), that didn't have their name on it?
They can do anything with their wealth they desire. As long as they don't try to turn this country into a non-democratic form of government by taking our vote away!
As to the history. I guess you're talking about when we had an upwardly mobile and vibrant middle class?

This has to be a joke. The Koch family has donated and put money towards many many many things that you do not know about that don’t have their name on it. You sir need to check yourself.