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  • Ta Town Shocker
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    My wife was reading updates on the war yesterday and asked if I saw anything ironic in a photo showing a woman in grief being held back by two female officers while looking at a destroyed housing complex.
    I had no idea what it was my wife was referring to. She zooms in and points out the two officers have pristine salon quality nails. They are in wartime and and are focused on keeping their nails nice. It's a little strange.

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    Last edited by Ta Town Shocker; April 17, 2023, 10:48 PM.

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  • WstateU
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  • WstateU
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    Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
    Just saw the US is sending another $2.6B to Ukraine

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  • SubGod22
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    Just saw the US is sending another $2.6B to Ukraine

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  • SubGod22
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    Ukraine isn't joining NATO, but Finland will join tomorrow and Russia obviously doesn't like it. Also sounds like Sweden should be accepted into NATO in the next couple of months.

    Sounds like both Finland and Sweden, which have been keen on no military alignment have changed their thoughts after Russia invaded Ukraine and they feared that they might be next. Being NATO members gives them some security knowing that if they are invaded, they have a number of other countries that are pretty much guaranteed to intervene on their behalf. Their addition will also bolster NATO support of Ukraine in this conflict.

    It will be interesting to see how Russia moves forward. I'd expect more military buildup in the near future along their Nordic border.

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  • SubGod22
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    For what it's worth, the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Putin for war crimes. Charged with the unlawful deportation and unlawful transfer of Ukrainian children to the Russian Federation.

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  • ShockTalk
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    Just saw that while the US and Biden pledged another $500 million, Japan pledged $5.5 billion because of their "strong concern that Ukraine may be tomorrow's East Asia".

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  • ShockerPrez
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    If we could track where our tax dollars are going, it would be one thing. But we can't. Based on how the grift works, we are funding pensions of politically juiced in persons in the Ukraine, who will be kicking 10%+ back to 'the big guys' of American politics. And the rest will be taken by the corruption machine in Ukraine. If you want to believe that we are helping any of the peasants in Ukraine, you are a gullible fool. (I don't mean 'you' as in anyone on this foum, but the 'yous' of the Twitter Ukraine flag brigade types).

    Given Biden's obvious corrupt ties to Ukraine, what other conclusion is one to make?

    I always poo-pooed the 'military industrial complex' rants in the past, but looking at the past 30 years and multiple admins of both parties, it is clear that it is the go to arena for corruption and business is booming.

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  • Kung Wu
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    I don't think he was talking about Ukraine being corrupt.

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  • N Crestway
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    Corruption there may be in Ukraine but you have to respect their fighting ability and spirit. We haven't had a committed ally like this in my lifetime except for maybe S. Korea, and at the time of the Korean war their regime was corrupt... but today S Korea is at least a viable republic and an ally.

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Corruption.

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  • pinstripers
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    Biden announces that US tax dollars will go towards supporting Ukrainian social services, including paying for government pensions.



    This is obscene. Impeach him NOW

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  • N Crestway
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    The slow down continues to a degree with no Leopard II's or M1 Abrams for Ukraine. British Challenger heavy tanks a good sign though.

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  • Shockm
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    Originally posted by N Crestway View Post
    Probably the only solution for Ukrainian victory and a lasting peace is continually deeper NATO involvement until what we have is direct NATO involvement. At this point, Putin's "last stand" is a long war of attrition which he believes he can win unless NATO becomes directly involved. Putin believes there are enough fissures in NATO to prevent this level of involvement...probably also believes there is enough fear and selfishness in NATO to prevent direct involvement. Right now he is throwing down the gauntlet with Russia's massive missile attacks on Ukraine to intimidate Ukraine and NATO....essentially calling NATO's bluff. The thing that beats Russia here is a war of attrition that Russia can't possibly win.
    General Keane, not long ago, said that they need to stop the slow down of the weapons necessary for Ukraine to win needs. China isn't going to enter the war. Give them the long range missiles, technology, tanks, etc. for Ukraine to take the war to Putin.

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  • N Crestway
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    Probably the only solution for Ukrainian victory and a lasting peace is continually deeper NATO involvement until what we have is direct NATO involvement. At this point, Putin's "last stand" is a long war of attrition which he believes he can win unless NATO becomes directly involved. Putin believes there are enough fissures in NATO to prevent this level of involvement...probably also believes there is enough fear and selfishness in NATO to prevent direct involvement. Right now he is throwing down the gauntlet with Russia's massive missile attacks on Ukraine to intimidate Ukraine and NATO....essentially calling NATO's bluff. The thing that beats Russia here is a war of attrition that Russia can't possibly win.

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