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  • Originally posted by N Crestway View Post

    Hillary believes preventing Putin from attending the G-20 conference will be an effective sanction. Arresting Putin at the G-20 conference might be effective. however.
    If Pootin' goes to the G-20, everybody else (besides China) better pack up and go home or I will have lost all faith in humanity.

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    • The horrible stories coming from the Ukraine are no surprise, rapes, wanton murder, destruction for destruction's sake. terrible. Very similar to the Japs in Manilla during WWII, or or the Russians marching to Berlin from the East, same time period.

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      • Bucha now presenting evidence of systematic killing over a period of weeks. One Bucha resident stated that where he lived the Russians were focused on all males under the age of 50.

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        • Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.


          Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.

          Absolutely chilling article from 2019.
          Was anybody aware that Pootin' was actually telling the truth about a Nazi movement growing in Ukraine?

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          • LOL, cold is now getting his news from far left websites. Who would have thought that?

            BTW, Ukraine attacked and heavily damage Russia heavy cruiser Moskvu yesterday. Another admiral to have a untimely death.

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            • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

              LOL, cold is now getting his news from far left websites. Who would have thought that?

              BTW, Ukraine attacked and heavily damage Russia heavy cruiser Moskvu yesterday. Another admiral to have a untimely death.
              Wtf?




              Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem (3/19/18)

              As Ukraine’s struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.

              A January 28 demonstration, in Kiev, by 600 members of the so-called “National Militia,” a newly-formed ultranationalist group that vows “to use force to establish order,” illustrates this threat. While the group’s Kiev launch was peaceful, National Militia members in balaclavas stormed a city council meeting in the central Ukrainian town of Cherkasy the following day, skirmishing with deputies and forcing them to pass a new budget.

              Many of the National Militia's members come from the Azov movement, one of the 30-odd privately-funded “volunteer battalions” that, in the early days of the war, helped the regular army to defend Ukrainian territory against Russia's separatist proxies. Although Azov uses Nazi-era symbolism and recruits neo-Nazis into its ranks, a recent article in Foreign Affairs downplayed any risks the group might pose, pointing out that, like other volunteer militias, Azov has been “reined in” through its integration into Ukraine’s armed forces. While it’s true that private militias no longer rule the battlefront, it’s the home front that Kiev needs to worry about now.

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              • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

                Wtf?

                Yeah, WTF - you really going to push Putin narrative and say this is about "NAZI" - which is not actually the NAZI you are thinking about (I mean Zelensky is Jewish). Go ahead Comrade Cold.

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                • You are going to find right wing nationalists in many countries. Ukraine no exception. In WWII Ukrainian factions were fighting both the Germans and the Russians. The reality was that both the Germans and Russians needed to be fought. Hitler vs Stalin, which side do you choose?
                  Last edited by N Crestway; April 15, 2022, 04:45 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by N Crestway View Post
                    You are going to find right wing nationalists in many countries. Ukraine no exception. In WWII Ukrainian factions were fighting both the Germans and the Russians. The reality was that both the Germans and Russians needed to be fought. Hitler vs Stalin, which side do you choose?
                    There is a large group on right wing national socialists in Ukraine for sure. It is unclear to me as to what degree they are racists.
                    Livin the dream

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                    • Whoa. Turns out the majority of neo-nazis in the Ukraine are RUSSIAN:

                      Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                      • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                        Yeah, WTF - you really going to push Putin narrative and say this is about "NAZI" - which is not actually the NAZI you are thinking about (I mean Zelensky is Jewish). Go ahead Comrade Cold.
                        Nobody is supporting Pootin' bro. Just pointing out that there was a fairly large contingent of neo-Nazi's in the country to the point that they were militarized and gaining power in the government. I thought it was just the ramblings of a madman. I had no idea they actually do have a problem. Clearly not a reason to invade and slaughter the citizenry lol.

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                        • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

                          Nobody is supporting Pootin' bro.
                          Sure u are. By pushing the false narrative, u are indeed supporting Putin comrade Cold.


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                          • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                            Sure u are. By pushing the false narrative, u are indeed supporting Putin comrade Cold.

                            Clod pushing a false narrative? Never (actually I mean Always)

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                            • Originally posted by wufan View Post

                              There is a large group on right wing national socialists in Ukraine for sure. It is unclear to me as to what degree they are racists.
                              Yes. and if you don't think there are a large amount of racists (white supremacists whatever) in Russia, then you don't know your wodka and I have several bridges in eastern Ukraine that I would like to sell you at a discount.

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                              • It's okay guys... calm down. I know it's upsetting that you didn't hear it from Hannity first. I know it's uncomfortable to be continually prodded to wake up to the true reality of things. I know it's much easier to be spoon fed your thoughts so you can go about your lives. But nobody is without sin. Nobody has all the truth (well, CB works hard to maintain 98.67% of it).

                                Indoctrination, groupthink, tribablism, are very real phenomenon that not only flourish in this fine forum, they are what allow the Russian people to be handled by a very small group of amoral billionaires.

                                Independent, free-thinking people who are willing to PERSONALLY investigate the facts in EVERY life situation have such an advantage over the rest of civilization it's almost unreal. Won't you unplug and join this exclusive club of ours today? A warning though, it doesn't come without a price. Ignorance is truly bliss - in the way that a herd of sheep are blissful...

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