Russia-Ukraine War

[ABC]

There is a possibility of a tipping point soon, in my opinion, that will cause the US, NATO and maybe others to engage in a more forceful way than delivering weapons and economic sanctions.

Kuwait wasn't a NATO country. And what were the reasons for NATO involvement in the Balkans when Yugoslavia blew apart in the 1990s?

[BOBB]

Where is “the line”? This was being discussed, painfully so, in my house today.

How many FAEs/Thermobaric bombs have to go off in civilian areas before the rest of the world says enough?

No limit, unfortunately. Nukes are the ultimate trump card. Shy of a full fledged invasion of a NATO country or "Lusitania/Pearl Harbor" type moment we are not getting into a shooting war with Russia.

[SB Shock]

Where is “the line”? This was being discussed, painfully so, in my house today.

How many FAEs/Thermobaric bombs have to go off in civilian areas before the rest of the world says enough?

That is a good question. Countries in Europe are concerned. Several countries beyond Ukraine have no applied for EU membership. Sweden and Finland may join NATO. It does seem that if Russia is not stopped in Ukraine this has the potential to grow in to a new European war.

[C0|dB|00ded]

I wonder if the world is ready for the likely assassination of Zelensky. The worldwide backlash could get quite interesting.

He's a celebrity/role model/hero at this point. If he gets popped it will be on like Donkey Kong. Of course it could also signal the collapse of the resistance.

Not breaking news, but my Ukrainian connection told me yesterday that he thinks Putin expected Ukraine to surrender quickly.

[wichshock65]

Where is “the line”? This was being discussed, painfully so, in my house today.

How many FAEs/Thermobaric bombs have to go off in civilian areas before the rest of the world says enough?

I wonder if the world is ready for the likely assassination of Zelensky. The worldwide backlash could get quite interesting.

[RoyalShock]

These are from a new twitter account, so I have no idea of the authenticity. The first claims to be of a captured Russian tank battalion. The 2nd appears to be a Russian medic truck that was carrying explosives and munitions.

[RoyalShock]

Here's an interesting read from a Russian academic about the Russian perspectives of the war:

http://deryugina.com/a-view-from-russian-academia/

[WuDrWu]

Where is “the line”? This was being discussed, painfully so, in my house today.

How many FAEs/Thermobaric bombs have to go off in civilian areas before the rest of the world says enough?

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Because he's not insane. He has goals, dreams, and a family. He understands that the game of politics (and life?) is over the second he lets loose one of his dirty birds.

Now... he is certainly not a good person, likely a sociopath... but, does he want to render all his wealth and power meaningless over ego and ideology? He'd have to be stark raving mad.

In a recent speech that follows, does Pootin' appear to be unhinged or in any way compromised?

Regardless of the outcome, he likely has already rendered (to a degree) his wealth and power meaningless. Very few will want anything to do with him after this, even in his own country.

[RoyalShock]

[C0|dB|00ded]

If Putin is actually facing being charged with war crimes, and if he actually is insane, why not use a nuke?

Because he's not insane. He has goals, dreams, and a family. He understands that the game of politics (and life?) is over the second he lets loose one of his dirty birds.

Now... he is certainly not a good person, likely a sociopath... but, does he want to render all his wealth and power meaningless over ego and ideology? He'd have to be stark raving mad.

In a recent speech that follows, does Pootin' appear to be unhinged or in any way compromised?

[pinstripers]

If Putin is actually facing being charged with war crimes, and if he actually is insane, why not use a nuke?

[1972Shocker]

I am sure the Ukraine people feel much better about their situation now that Kamalala has explained the situation so eloquently.

.https://twitter.com/grandoldmemes/st...the-union-n222

[ABC]

Fascinating read why Russia is struggling. I think no matter the outcome this week or month, Putin loses.

Thread by @kamilkazani on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App

[SB Shock]

Kiev and Kharkov are going to be besieged and maybe flattened. Putin may not take all the country on a permanent basis but he is going to virtually destroy its capacity to be a viable nation. The end goal is for it to be like Belarus. Interesting now that news reports claim that Belarus troops are apparently joining in on the invasion. Guessing they will be going in further west to cut off aid from Poland. So now the Ukraine may be fighting armies from 2 states.

Just watching all the posturing and legal debate tonight on Deutch TV is depressing.... "no action, talk only" is what got us to this state of affairs in the first place. Don't want to read any more articles that claim that Putin is really losing because he has lost the PR war and sanctions have come down on Russia's head. The only positive so far is that Germany will raise its level of defense spending to about 2% of GDP... or at least they now claim they are going to do that.

Russia is adjusting their tactics. They tried to win the war over the weekend. It didn't work out (but they have always been willing to throw men away). They are now taking a more measured approach which means leveling of civilian areas. Belarus and Chechnya are sending troops.

Russians are winning in the South and will take their objectives at minimum. Ukraine is fighting bravely, but the math doesn't work out for Ukraine without some outside support changing the formula.