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  • Ted Lasso's Neighbor
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    Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

    That's interesting, as I read something recently from an expert that said those things had nothing to do with recent quakes. Something to do with depth and locations.

    Wish I could remember who it was or where I read it.
    A few pages back there was a link to an article on KAKE - https://www.kake.com/story/43096185/...ivity-kcc-says - and the state seemed to imply then it wasn't fracking circumstances related. It mentioned:

    The KCC's investigation examined many factors including:
    • A review of historical disposal well records for Arbuckle or Granite Wash injection wells within a six-mile radius of the earthquakes. Five wells were located in the radius. No recent volume increases were found.
    • Any new drilling activity within three miles of the epicenters. No new wells were recently completed within the area.
    • Spot checks of the wells within the radius area to verify compliance with permit conditions.
    So bullet points one and two could be right, but if the water is going outside the area, then that could be what the WSU guy was talking about. That may be what the third bullet checked, but I'm not sure they could really tell what's happening with the water, especially with just spot checks.

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  • SubGod22
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    Originally posted by Ted Lasso's Neighbor View Post
    I was at the web site for the Sunflower and saw they had an article a couple weeks ago where they interviewed William Parcell, WSU’s Geology Department Chair - https://thesunflower.com/53885/news/...s-earthquakes/ - and this part was interesting:



    The investigation done a couple weeks ago basically just said drilling and disposal hadn't changed, but maybe there are issues with the water still not staying put. We also had a dry summer and fall, so the rain yesterday could have soaked in quite a bit if there are deep drought cracks. Anything over 3.5 triggers an investigation by the state, so it'll be interesting to see what they say.
    That's interesting, as I read something recently from an expert that said those things had nothing to do with recent quakes. Something to do with depth and locations.

    Wish I could remember who it was or where I read it.

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  • SB Shock
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    Here is interactive map of the KGS locations. You can just click on the Greed triangles and see the semi-realtime monitoring

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  • SB Shock
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    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
    According to KGS a 2.6 centered at the intersection of 13th and Greenwich.

    USGS is showing it as a 2.4 centered at 29th and Greenwich. Located by reference to Bel Aire this time. But there is that location discrepancy again.

    Perhap it simply shows that earthquake science is far from exact????
    The earthquake location is determined from triangulating from the seismograph network the time and distance. The question is which network (KGS or USGS) you trust the most.

    Location of KGS seismic monitoring locations. You would think that the KGS one in SG county would be the gold standard, excepts it doesn't seem to be working when I query their data. So I would probably trust the USGS. I would suspect (but maybe I'm wrong) they have agreements with each state to have access to their data also. OK has extensive seismic monitoring. OK seems to value science more than kansas with Mesonet and seismic networks.

    kssiesmic2.jpg

    Here is the USGS locations

    usgsseismic.JPG

    USGS has also some temporary locations. Not sure if this all of them, they did have one installed at one point in West Wichita near Kellog..

    usgs temp.JPG
    Last edited by SB Shock; December 31, 2020, 09:54 AM.

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  • Ted Lasso's Neighbor
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    Did a little searching around the internet and here's information on where the seismographs are located:

    From https://geokansas.ku.edu/monitoring-earthquakes-kansas -

    "In 2016, the KGS established a permanent seismic network throughout the state. Before it was set up, there were only two seismic monitors in the state. Operated by the U.S. Geological Survey, they were located at Cedar Bluff Reservoir in western Kansas and the Konza Prairie Biological Station south of Manhattan. Larger Kansas seismic events and smaller ones close to the Oklahoma state line also were picked up by the Oklahoma Geological Survey seismic station network."

    Here are maps for each:

    USGS - the map is at https://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitori...ns/network.php and you can zoom in and see the exact locations of all the USGS locations.

    KGS - they have a map of all their locations at http://www.kgs.ku.edu/Geophysics/Ear...s/network.html and there is one is SW Sedgwick county and one in southern Sumner county

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  • Downtown Shocker Brown
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    It is known to be far from exact. It is just a triangulation based on location of seismographs. Depending on what the wave has to travel through can slightly impact the time and strength. The quality of the machine can also impact it.

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  • WstateU
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    Originally posted by JVShocker View Post

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  • 1972Shocker
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    According to KGS a 2.6 centered at the intersection of 13th and Greenwich.

    USGS is showing it as a 2.4 centered at 29th and Greenwich. Located by reference to Bel Aire this time. But there is that location discrepancy again.

    Perhap it simply shows that earthquake science is far from exact????
    Last edited by 1972Shocker; December 31, 2020, 08:28 AM.

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  • JVShocker
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    Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
    <context removed> Wife didn't hear or feel anything.

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  • 1972Shocker
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    Originally posted by JVShocker View Post
    10:53 pm. Small rumble and shake....was there a tiny one just now?
    Yep. I'm guessing 2.5 - 2.7 maybe.

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  • 1972Shocker
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    Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post

    The USGS recorded it at 5:04:44 AM, while the KGS recorded it at 5:04:43 AM, so basically the same earthquake, yet the epicenters were around 2.5 miles apart. Is that possible?
    They seem to consistently have a that kind of variance in location. Not sure why. Perhaps because of different locations of their detection equipment. I'm guessing the USGS has the equipment in or near Eastborough as they usually express the location using Eastborough as the reference point. But I really do not know what accounts for this.

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  • ShockTalk
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    Thought I heard something. Didn't feel anything. Wife didn't hear or feel anything.

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  • NCAABound
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    Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
    Lol getting comical. Guessing 2.8 just now.
    It is pretty sad when us kansans can predict the strength of an earthquake

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  • NCAABound
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    Had to be southwest of 13th/greenwich

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  • WuDrWu
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    Lol getting comical. Guessing 2.8 just now.

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