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  • “The ongoing transmission we are seeing between vaccinated people makes it essential for unvaccinated people to get vaccinated to protect themselves.”

    This line from above seems contradictory in this context.
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    • At this point it's pretty obvious that the shots may help lessen the severity of the impact on those infected but does nearly nothing when it comes to spread. So, while it would still be wise for most to get the shot, it's not the savior of mankind like some politicians and bureaucrats try to make it out to be. I think many of us had a pretty good idea that was the case before these studies were done simply based on the evidence available to the masses thru the media, when such things are actually reported and by looking at the numbers and not just listening to the slant of whoever is presenting the data.
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      • Originally posted by wufan View Post
        “The ongoing transmission we are seeing between vaccinated people makes it essential for unvaccinated people to get vaccinated to protect themselves.”

        This line from above seems contradictory in this context.
        I think what they are saying is that since anyone can transmit the disease and because the vaccination does to seem to have some therapuetic benefits then people should get vaccinated for the possivle therapuetic benefits of the vaccine. Although not sure this shot is really a vaccine. It's a therapuetic taken prophylacticallly.

        Ironic in that the powers that be seemed to be working against the use of existing medicines or the development of new medicines to be used as a prophylactic therapuetic.

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        • Incorrect. The vaccine reduces spread/infection, hospitalization, and death w/ the latter two being greatly so. The overall effectiveness of the vaccine sans boost does start to diminish at the 5-6 month range. We do not know yet how long the vaccine + booster lasts against the current dominant strain, but the near-term immunity from INFECTION for Pfizer boosters is 96%+.

          Stop spreading misinformation you Covidiot/Vaxidiot/intentionally retarded people.

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          • I bet it pains Cold that he has to come to this site everyday and give himself the silent treatment.
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            • One has to assume that Biden, the DNC, and Fauci are getting kickbacks from the drug companies.

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              • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

                I think what they are saying is that since anyone can transmit the disease and because the vaccination does to seem to have some therapuetic benefits then people should get vaccinated for the possivle therapuetic benefits of the vaccine. Although not sure this shot is really a vaccine. It's a therapuetic taken prophylacticallly.

                Ironic in that the powers that be seemed to be working against the use of existing medicines or the development of new medicines to be used as a prophylactic therapuetic.
                It is a vaccine. Due to the nature of the virus, we are seeing that it it doesn’t stop transmission, which is what we traditionally think a vaccine does. It’s still a vaccine by definition.
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                • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                  Incorrect. The vaccine reduces spread/infection, hospitalization, and death w/ the latter two being greatly so. The overall effectiveness of the vaccine sans boost does start to diminish at the 5-6 month range. We do not know yet how long the vaccine + booster lasts against the current dominant strain, but the near-term immunity from INFECTION for Pfizer boosters is 96%+.

                  Stop spreading misinformation you Covidiot/Vaxidiot/intentionally retarded people.
                  No.

                  It does not reduce the spread based on any available data.

                  it does not diminish after 5-6 months.

                  Near term immunity from ILLNESS is above 90%, not from infection.

                  A pretty low information blueanon take all around.
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                  • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                    One has to assume that Biden, the DNC, and Fauci are getting kickbacks from the drug companies.
                    Nope. It’s not about money. This is much more evil than that.
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                    • Shameful!!



                      Today on Feedback, I shared the story of Maddie De Garay, a 12-year old girl who volunteered to participate in the Pfizer Covid experimental shot study. She was a healthy, happy, straight-A student from Ohio who enjoyed life before receiving her second dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. She suffered severe side effects and is now confined to a wheelchair.

                      Her grieving mom Stephanie, who indicated that she voted for Joe Biden in the last presidential election tried to appeal to him and his administration: “You said it was safe!”

                      A new television ad that spotlights Maddie’s Pfizer vaccine-related injuries was pulled by Comcast after they initially accepted the ad. A direct appeal to Joe Biden, the ad was slated to begin airing during Saturday Night Live, then multiple times around NBC’s Meet the Press, continuing through the FDA’s VRBPAC Meeting on Pfizer Data on its COVID-19 Vaccine for Children 5-11.

                      De Garay stated: “I’ve waited seven months for Pfizer or the FDA to acknowledge what happened to my daughter and they haven’t. They tried to ignore her injuries. I had hoped that with this ad, she would finally have the chance to be in the room with them, to be seen by them, and for her voice to be heard. Instead, they silenced her.”

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                      • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
                        Shameful!!


                        It is not clear what happened to this poor child. I will withhold any judgement on if it was vaccine related until more information is available.

                        per the article, there have been 800k reported side effects. That’s not nothing, but a sore arm or even a tummy ache is a reported side effect. There is no data that purports that the vaccine isn’t overall safe (you should see the side effects reported for aspirin).

                        We are not vaccinating our 13 year old as we feel that the chances of a serious illness are are so statistically insignificant that to add any additional risk from vaccination would be foolish. I hope everyone is taking the time to consider the risk/benefit scenario in their own situation.
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                        • Originally posted by wufan View Post

                          It is a vaccine. Due to the nature of the virus, we are seeing that it it doesn’t stop transmission, which is what we traditionally think a vaccine does. It’s still a vaccine by definition.
                          Yes, the definition the the CDC changed to fit what this shot does or what the thought it could do.

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                          • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
                            Shameful!!


                            No mainstream media on this? I’m shocked.
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                            • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

                              Yes, the definition the the CDC changed to fit what this shot does or what the thought it could do.
                              That’s not it. Plenty to be skeptical about, but it is a vaccine and acts as a vaccine should and always has. There are truly differences in this virus that cause what you are seeing.
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                              • Again, how come cases continue to plummet, even though we’ve had hundreds of unmasked superspreader events go on for the last several months?

                                Oh wait. This is what a virus naturally does, whether you’re masked up or not.
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