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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    Well, the current vaccine doesn’t work at all, even if boosted, according to us at Pfizer. The data is terrible! The omicron vx is not demonstrated to work in clinical trials, but it is demonstrated as safe. Thanks to government bureaucracy, it isn’t available to those that are at greatest risk and want to mitigate that risk.
    Poppycock!

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/b...0%20and%20over.

    Boosters provide high level of protection against death with Omicron


    The latest data from the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) shows that boosters significantly reduce the risk of death with Omicron.
    The findings show that around 6 months after a second dose of any of the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines, protection against death with Omicron was around 60% in those aged 50 and over. However, this increased to around 95% 2 weeks after receiving a booster vaccine dose.

    The data continue to show high levels of protection against hospitalisation from the booster. After a Pfizer booster (after either primary vaccination course), vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation started at around 90%, dropping to around 75% after 10 to 14 weeks.

    After a Moderna booster (mRNA-1273) (after either primary vaccination course), vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation was 90% to 95% up to 9 weeks after vaccination. Longer follow-up data is not yet available and these figures may change with time.
    Dr Mary Ramsay, Head of Immunisation at UKHSA, said:
    The evidence is clear – the vaccine helps to protect us all against the effects of COVID-19 and the booster is offering high levels of protection from hospitalisation and death in the most vulnerable members of our society.
    I don't know what the McPherson Pfizer plant's local Anarchists chapter is smoking after lunchtime, but I don't think it's legal...

    Click on the golden hyperlink ("findings show that") for all the glorious data.

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  • SHOXAAC
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

    Considering the government is the customer of vaccines, using our money, is it not appreciated that they're attempting to be good stewards by not purchasing needless vaccines?

    The current iteration works fine. Please get boosted and encourage your friends and family to do so as well.

    Good evening to you sir!
    As Prez said in another thread I am not anti-vax. I am anti-A-holes who want to control me and you into believing it is the end all be all. We were lied to that it prevented C19. Then you have to take several shots and hold your nose just right. It has serious side effects that I am not convinced are rare. People of all ages are seriously ill and some are dying because of it. I don’t trust fast tracking any drug or vaccine. I also do t trust the engine behind this movement. I am 60 and have no co- morbidities. I am very careful to follow social distancing and masking where required with no push back.
    Last edited by SHOXAAC; February 16, 2022, 01:44 PM.

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  • WstateU
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    Douglas Robert Ford Jr. MPP is a Canadian businessman and politician who has served as the 26th and current premier of Ontario since June 2018 and leader of the Progressive Conservative Party since March 2018. He represents the Toronto-area riding of Etobicoke North in the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.

    Hard to argue with his comments…

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

    Considering the government is the customer of vaccines, using our money, is it not appreciated that they're attempting to be good stewards by not purchasing needless vaccines?

    The current iteration works fine. Please get boosted and encourage your friends and family to do so as well.

    Good evening to you sir!
    Pfizer sold over 30 billion doses last year. There are 8 billion people on planet earth needing three doses each. This doesn’t account for the other manufacturers.

    Buy more Vx!

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

    Good call. The current vaccine works adequately if boosted.

    Thank the good folks at Pfizer for me will ya? Tell them to "stand back, and stand by" ;) if/when the next variant emerges and we find ourselves in trouble again. There is absolutely nothing written in stone that says each successive variant will be more mild. The variants we have faced to date are not direct descendants of each other, they came from completely different parts of the family tree. And just in case somebody wants to argue with me on this point... don't. I mean... just don't lol.
    Well, the current vaccine doesn’t work at all, even if boosted, according to us at Pfizer. The data is terrible! The omicron vx is not demonstrated to work in clinical trials, but it is demonstrated as safe. Thanks to government bureaucracy, it isn’t available to those that are at greatest risk and want to mitigate that risk.

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  • pinstripers
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

    Don't let insensitivity to sample size/recency bias/gambler's fallacy get you all spun around my friend. We must deal in probabilities, not certainty.

    The vaccine does an amazingly good job of keeping the vast majority of human beings out of the hospital or morgue. We just have a distribution/acceptance problem.

    I would gladly volunteer as general of the vaccine army, taking my forces door to door, redeeming the lost, helping society move forward from this quagmire of ignorance and self-harm.
    So you are saying it usually works. OK. I can accept that.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

    Our local fire chief was in hospital for 3-4 weeks, and is sill on oxygen today. He had the vacc, and was boosted. Sometimes it works I guess.
    Don't let insensitivity to sample size/recency bias/gambler's fallacy get you all spun around my friend. We must deal in probabilities, not certainty.

    The vaccine does an amazingly good job of keeping the vast majority of human beings out of the hospital or morgue. We just have a distribution/acceptance problem.

    I would gladly volunteer as general of the vaccine army, taking my forces door to door, redeeming the lost, helping society move forward from this quagmire of ignorance and self-harm.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Surgical face coverings are not designed to contain infectious aerosols that accumulate in enclosed spaces. Experts recommend N95 masks, which are better fitted and have a higher filtration capacity


    How long does it take to catch coronavirus depending on the type of mask you’re wearing?

    Surgical face coverings are not designed to contain infectious aerosols that accumulate in enclosed spaces. Experts recommend N95 masks, which are better fitted and have a higher filtration capacity
    A recent study carried out by the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH), based on data provided by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), estimates different timeframes for coronavirus contagion depending on the type of face mask a person is using. These range from 27 minutes for somebody wearing a cloth mask to up to 25 hours for someone wearing a perfectly adjusted N95 mask (the US equivalent of an FFP2 in Europe).
    Ya'll owe me nothing for posting this article other than a gentlemen's agreement that you'll read it and learn.

    I know... I know... but the answer is no, I am not clairvoyant. It's just logic, sharper than a surgeon's scalpel combined with an inhuman amount of onboard data accessible at a moment's notice.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
    The trend is almost exactly like several here said 6 to 10 weeks ago...almost exactly ( Kung Wu for sure and doubtlessly others).

    Imagine that.
    lol








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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by SHOXAAC View Post

    There are 8 blood pressure medications in the Angiotensin II Receptor Blocker (ARB) category for people who have high blood pressure. The medical community didn't block the 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th one to market. When dealing with a highly dangerous disease state like hypertension and a pandemic caused by COVID, the more quality drug options out there would make plenty of sense. So if a highly respected drug manufacturer is willing to bring another option to market and passes all the requirements, isn't that a good thing?
    Considering the government is the customer of vaccines, using our money, is it not appreciated that they're attempting to be good stewards by not purchasing needless vaccines?

    The current iteration works fine. Please get boosted and encourage your friends and family to do so as well.

    Good evening to you sir!

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post

    He's got to unemployed, or self-employed and doing something that is earning very little at current. How would you POSSIBLY have time to engage online like he does and actually earn a living.
    I'll take that as a compliment.

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  • WuDrWu
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    The trend is almost exactly like several here said 6 to 10 weeks ago...almost exactly ( Kung Wu for sure and doubtlessly others).

    Imagine that.

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  • ShockerFever
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    Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
    Hospitalizations and ICU usage in Sedgwick County currently showing rapid improvement ...


    Depressive news for Cold.

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  • SHOXAAC
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

    Good call. The current vaccine works adequately if boosted.

    Thank the good folks at Pfizer for me will ya? Tell them to "stand back, and stand by" ;) if/when the next variant emerges and we find ourselves in trouble again. There is absolutely nothing written in stone that says each successive variant will be more mild. The variants we have faced to date are not direct descendants of each other, they came from completely different parts of the family tree. And just in case somebody wants to argue with me on this point... don't. I mean... just don't lol.
    There are 8 blood pressure medications in the Angiotensin II Receptor Blocker (ARB) category for people who have high blood pressure. The medical community didn't block the 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th one to market. When dealing with a highly dangerous disease state like hypertension and a pandemic caused by COVID, the more quality drug options out there would make plenty of sense. So if a highly respected drug manufacturer is willing to bring another option to market and passes all the requirements, isn't that a good thing?

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  • Kung Wu
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    Hospitalizations and ICU usage in Sedgwick County currently showing rapid improvement ...


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