Lady Shocks @ Drake and @ UNI

[tgcshock]

If this is the best recruiting class in program history and a top 50 in the nation as rated by basketball pundants why our we not getting more out of them ?

Because you earn your playing time in practice. You get the best out of a class by expecting them to meet the standard. In the short run they get less playing time. In the long run they become quality players that can win championships.

[tgcshock]

This has been said over and over again but it seems to fall on deaf ears. All Jody is doing is using the methods she learned from Pat Summit. There is a reason that so many former Tennessee players are successful coaches. Jody was on championship teams and she is reproducing the kind of coaching that got them there. A person can legitimately question whether they or their child wants to play on a team that uses the Pat Summit approach. Questioning whether the Pat Summit approach will be successful in NCAA women's basketball seriously damages your credibility as a basketball fan.

[shockattack]

I guess that your analysis leads to three questions? Why has Jody had the best recruiting classes in WSU history? Why does Jody have the only women's BB regular season and tournament championship in WSU history? Why is Jody 1 win away from being the all-time wins leaders in WSU women's BB history.

I am always a little skeptical of fans on message boards who think they know what losing coaches are doing wrong, although at least there you see why they make the arguments. I don't even know what to say when a fan thinks they know better than championship coaches.

Anyone ever heard of history repeating itself? I suspect these two articles will resurface with just a couple of edits from SIU to WSU. http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/...033108aap.html, http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/...041408aaa.html and http://www.kfvs12.com/story/10121813...-coach-resigns.
But hey, those 12 players were definitely in the wrong because she was a championship coach after all. Oh and make a note of the last line in that first article which is referring to her last season she coached.

While most of the articles online have been scrubbed since Eikenberg left SUI I found this http://www.galesburg.com/article/200.../SEARCH/?tag=1 an interesting view, and even a Drake forum post http://www.drakenation.com/Topic22854-16-1.aspx#bm23359 pretty interesting.

And I understand that Megan Lanham was going to be Coach Crawford's replacement when he was headed to Texas.

[oldtimewomen's hoopcoach]

Anyone ever heard of history repeating itself? I suspect these two articles will resurface with just a couple of edits from SIU to WSU. http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/...033108aap.html, http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/...041408aaa.html and http://www.kfvs12.com/story/10121813...-coach-resigns.
But hey, those 12 players were definitely in the wrong because she was a championship coach after all. Oh and make a note of the last line in that first article which is referring to her last season she coached.

While most of the articles online have been scrubbed since Eikenberg left SUI I found this http://www.galesburg.com/article/200.../SEARCH/?tag=1 an interesting view, and even a Drake forum post http://www.drakenation.com/Topic22854-16-1.aspx#bm23359 pretty interesting.

And I understand that Megan Lanham was going to be Coach Crawford's replacement when he was headed to Texas.

There must be more to these postings that can't be solved in this forum. If you have issues with an assistant coach take to the A.D. or President.

[tgcshock]

Anyone ever heard of history repeating itself? I suspect these two articles will resurface with just a couple of edits from SIU to WSU. http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/...033108aap.html, http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/...041408aaa.html and http://www.kfvs12.com/story/10121813...-coach-resigns.
But hey, those 12 players were definitely in the wrong because she was a championship coach after all. Oh and make a note of the last line in that first article which is referring to her last season she coached.

While most of the articles online have been scrubbed since Eikenberg left SUI I found this http://www.galesburg.com/article/200.../SEARCH/?tag=1 an interesting view, and even a Drake forum post http://www.drakenation.com/Topic22854-16-1.aspx#bm23359 pretty interesting.

And I understand that Megan Lanham was going to be Coach Crawford's replacement when he was headed to Texas.

I think most of us on this board are aware of the problems that Dana had at SIU. I followed this at the time it was happening and from what I could tell Jody was viewed by the players as a voice of reason and not as part of the problem.

There is a great deal of difference between complaining about a program being demanding (and freshman not earning playing time) and accusing coaches of misconduct. If that is the discussion we are having, then I would suggest that if you have evidence of misconduct then you should take it to the AD. If you don't have evidence, than you should probably not make serious charges about coaches misconduct on a public message board. Let me be clear. If misconduct occurs by a coaching staff it should be dealt with swiftly and strongly. However, linking to articles about an assistant coach from 2008 (or hearsay from other message boards) and saying "Anyone ever heard of history repeating itself" is not evidence. Serious charges about a coach's conduct and character are potentially libelous. This is not the right forum for that level of accusation.

[shockattack]

I think most of us on this board are aware of the problems that Dana had at SIU. I followed this at the time it was happening and from what I could tell Jody was viewed by the players as a voice of reason and not as part of the problem.

There is a great deal of difference between complaining about a program being demanding (and freshman not earning playing time) and accusing coaches of misconduct. If that is the discussion we are having, then I would suggest that if you have evidence of misconduct then you should take it to the AD. If you don't have evidence, than you should probably not make serious charges about coaches misconduct on a public message board. Let me be clear. If misconduct occurs by a coaching staff it should be dealt with swiftly and strongly. However, linking to articles about an assistant coach from 2008 (or hearsay from other message boards) and saying "Anyone ever heard of history repeating itself" is not evidence. Serious charges about a coach's conduct and character are potentially libelous. This is not the right forum for that level of accusation.

I don't see any accusations in this post. AND I don't believe Jody's name was mentioned, merely pointing out another program's history who's coach is now here.

[The Mad Hatter]

I don't see any accusations in this post. AND I don't believe Jody's name was mentioned, merely pointing out another program's history who's coach is now here.

If there is no accusation involved, why post what you posted?

It is cowardly to post accusations of misconduct from the anonymity of the internet, it is doubly cowardly to pretend that you didn't do it when you get called out.

[tgcshock]

I don't see any accusations in this post. AND I don't believe Jody's name was mentioned, merely pointing out another program's history who's coach is now here.

Your exact words were "Anyone ever heard of history repeating itself? I suspect these two articles will resurface with just a couple of edits from SIU to WSU."

So you link to articles in which a coach was accused of misconduct. You say that history is repeating itself and that the two articles substantially represent what is going to happen at WSU, but you are not accusing anyone of anything. To quote from "The Princess Bride", I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[shockattack]

I guess that your analysis leads to three questions? Why has Jody had the best recruiting classes in WSU history? Why does Jody have the only women's BB regular season and tournament championship in WSU history? Why is Jody 1 win away from being the all-time wins leaders in WSU women's BB history.

I am always a little skeptical of fans on message boards who think they know what losing coaches are doing wrong, although at least there you see why they make the arguments. I don't even know what to say when a fan thinks they know better than championship coaches.

I was merely pointing out one of your championship coaches. Take it for what you want.

[RoyalShock]

I was merely pointing out one of your championship coaches. Take it for what you want.

It looks to me like you outed yourself as a non-WSU fan with an axe to grind with the word I bolded in your quote above. I see two posters in this thread who largely post after a loss. This is not the place for you to air out a vendetta.

[SkippyThaShocker]

The shocks have a 3 game lead in the conference and the only way to make the NCAA is by winning the conf tournament , so why not use these games for development to a certain level while relinquishing the heavy minutes off the knees and bruised ankles of our starters and main contributors.

[1972Shocker]

I don't see any accusations in this post. AND I don't believe Jody's name was mentioned, merely pointing out another program's history who's coach is now here.

In other words bringing up old news that has been hashed and re-hashed and cussed and discussed on this board including as it happened at SIU and at the time DE was hired by Jody and at various times since then. The question is why are you bringing this up again at this point in time? Do you have something new to add to the mix? Please be specific if you do?

[_kai_]

I have informed this poster 4 times now(over the past 2 months), all resulting in permanent bans (which they go around anyways with new users and IP's) that if they have unsubstantiated rumors (meaning, anything that isn't being reported in the media and is vetted) in regards to misconduct, that they should be A) Reported to the police if they feel a law has been broken and/or B) reported to either Eric Sexton, Boatright, or a compliance officer within the Athletic Department.

For what ever reason, they feel that posting on this forum is more beneficial than actually doing something proactive. I'd appreciate it if everyone would just report a post like that, rather than feed more fuel to the fire and even debate them. It is obvious at this point that the person does not want anything positive to come from it, and just want to start rumors.