WBB - Shocker Hall of Fame Members & Candidates

[1972Shocker]

Shocker Women's BB stats are now fixed and included the overall season stats as well as conference stats.

[1972Shocker]

Alex is now at 1,608 career points and trails Allison Daniel who is #1 at 1,638 career points by 30 points.

You might look at the fact that Alex has played in 128 games in her career and Allison only played in 110 games in her career and that mostly accounts for Alex's moving in on the All-Time Shocker scoring record.

However, Allison was 712 of 1,741 (40.9%) from the field in her career and 214 of 336 (63.7%) from the FT line.

Alex is 605 of 1275 (47.5%) from the field and 364 of 456 (79.8%) from the FT line.

Alex has had the advantage of having the 3-point shot but that has not been a big part of her game. In fact, she is only 34 of 124 in her career on 3-pointers for 27.4%.

Alex has averaged right around 10 field goal attempts per game during her career. Not exactly a volume shooter.

If you take Allison's attempts (FG & FT) and apply Alex's shooting percentages to the same number of attempts and only score all FG makes at 2 points each Alex would have 1,922 points.

If Alex had taken the same number of shots & free throws per game over her 128 games that Allison averaged over her 110 games and again using Alex's shooting percentages and only counting all FG's at 2 points Alex would have 2 ,237 points.

[1972Shocker]

It is also worth adding that Alex's career shooting percentage is .474 overall (#14 in WSU history) and .496 from 2-point range. The only player in the top 10 in scoring at WSU with a higher career shooting percentage is Jennifer Kaczka.

Alex also has a career freethrow percentage of .798, which is 3rd all time and just .001 out of a tie fro 2nd all time at WSU. She is also 3rd in freethrow makes and 5th in attempts.

I can list those if you like. I had considered it but my posts are kind of cluttered as it is. I figured those shooting % are to some degree reflected in her scoring statistics.

You see a lot of unusual looking shooting techniques in Women's Basketball. Not so with Alex. Her stroke is picture perfect. I don't know how long she will play beyond College but I can see her shooting only getting better including developing more of a long-range game.

[The Mad Hatter]

I can list those if you like. I had considered it but my posts are kind of cluttered as it is. I figured those shooting % are to some degree reflected in her scoring statistics.

You see a lot of unusual looking shooting techniques in Women's Basketball. Not so with Alex. Her stroke is picture perfect. I don't know how long she will play beyond College but I can see her shooting only getting better including developing more of a long-range game.

I don't know if they need to be in the list itself, but I thought it was worth adding to the discussion. Sometimes you see big numbers but it doesn't tell you anything about efficiency. Alex has both.

[1972Shocker]

I don't know if they need to be in the list itself, but I thought it was worth adding to the discussion. Sometimes you see big numbers but it doesn't tell you anything about efficiency. Alex has both.

Absolutely. See my post #77 above which also says a lot about Alex's offensive efficiency.

[1972Shocker]

Alex is the the best player ever for WSU.

Mike Kennedy expressed this same opinion on the men's pre-game show today.

[1972Shocker]

Alex vs Indiana State II: 17 points + 6 rebounds + 1 assists + 0 steals + 0 block = 24 total

Career-To-Date: 3,051 + 24 = 3,075

All-Time List (In order of total HOF score):

1. 2011-15 Alex Harden (3,075/129 Games = 23.84/Game)
2. 2000-04 Angela Buckner (2,956/107 Games = 27.63/Game) *
3. 1982-86 Allison Daniel (2,817/110 Games = 25.61/Game) *
4. 1998-02 Jennifer Kaczka (2,798/114 Games = 24.54/Game) *
5. 1996-00 Lateesha Hill (2,686/114 = 23.56/Game)
6. 1992-96 Kim Evans (2,632/110 = 23.93/Game)
7. 1977-81 Terry O'Bryon (2,583/109 = 23.70/Game)
8. 2004-08 Kiki Stephens (2,509/115 = 21.82/Game)
9. 2009-13 Jessica Diamond (2,421/130 = 18.62/Game)
10. 1979-83 Theresa Dreiling (2,350/114 = 20.61/Game)
11. 1991-95 Ann Hollingsworth (2,314/111 = 20.85/Game)
12. 1980-84 Lisa Hodgson (2,288/112 Games = 20.43/Game) *
13. 2008-12 Haleigh Lankster (2,280/126 = 18.10/Game)
14. 2003-07 Antionette Wells (2,239/110 = 20.35/Game)
15. 1993-97 Tootie Shaw (2,176/111 = 19.60/Game)

* Shocker Hall of Fame Member - Also see initial post for this thread for a discussion or Shocker Hall of Famer Marguerite Keeley who played in 44 games over 2 seasons for the Shocks and averaged 20.8 PPG and 12.5 RPG in her career.

HOF Score = Career Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks

[1972Shocker]

Updated Through Saturday, March 7th (Last regular season game of 2014-15):

Alex Harden's Combo Scores By Year:
Freshman - 398/33 games = 12.06 per game (9 starts)
Sophomore - 780/34 games = 22.94 per game (28 starts)
Junior - 1,030/33 games = 31.21 per game (33 starts)
Senior - 867/29 games = 29.90 per game (29 starts) and counting
Career - 3,075/129 games = 23.84 per game (99 starts) and counting

Alex Harden's Career Totals by Category (Current Rank in Shocker Record Books):
Points - 1,625 (#2)
Rebounds - 656 (#9)
Assists - 427 (#3)
Steals - 258 (#2)
Blocks - 109 (#5)
Combined Total = 3,075 (#1)
Games Played - 129 (#5)
Average Combo Score/Game - 23.84 (#5)

Games Won - 95 (#2)

Kelsey Jacobs has played in 126 of the 130 games that past 4 seasons plus she played in 9 games her true Freshman year before going down with season ending stress fracture and getting a medical redshirt. Kelsey only played about 7 minutes a game in those 9 games but the team was 6-3. By my calculations Kelsey has played in 98 wins as a Lady Shocker which makes her the winningest Lady Shocker in history.)

Kelsey Jacob's current career Combo Score is 1,581/135 = 11.71 per game.

Jamillah Bonner's current career Combo Score is 1,294/61 = 21.21 per game.

[1972Shocker]

Alex vs Loyola III: 17 points + 3 rebounds + 3 assists + 7 steals + 1 block = 30 total

Career-To-Date: 3,075 + 30 = 3,105

All-Time List (In order of total HOF score):

1. 2011-15 Alex Harden (3,105/130 Games = 23.88/Game)
2. 2000-04 Angela Buckner (2,956/107 Games = 27.63/Game) *
3. 1982-86 Allison Daniel (2,817/110 Games = 25.61/Game) *
4. 1998-02 Jennifer Kaczka (2,798/114 Games = 24.54/Game) *
5. 1996-00 Lateesha Hill (2,686/114 = 23.56/Game)
6. 1992-96 Kim Evans (2,632/110 = 23.93/Game)
7. 1977-81 Terry O'Bryon (2,583/109 = 23.70/Game)
8. 2004-08 Kiki Stephens (2,509/115 = 21.82/Game)
9. 2009-13 Jessica Diamond (2,421/130 = 18.62/Game)
10. 1979-83 Theresa Dreiling (2,350/114 = 20.61/Game)
11. 1991-95 Ann Hollingsworth (2,314/111 = 20.85/Game)
12. 1980-84 Lisa Hodgson (2,288/112 Games = 20.43/Game) *
13. 2008-12 Haleigh Lankster (2,280/126 = 18.10/Game)
14. 2003-07 Antionette Wells (2,239/110 = 20.35/Game)
15. 1993-97 Tootie Shaw (2,176/111 = 19.60/Game)

* Shocker Hall of Fame Member - Also see initial post for this thread for a discussion or Shocker Hall of Famer Marguerite Keeley who played in 44 games over 2 seasons for the Shocks and averaged 20.8 PPG and 12.5 RPG in her career.

HOF Score = Career Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks

[1972Shocker]

Updated Through Friday, March 13th:

Alex Harden's Combo Scores By Year:
Freshman - 398/33 games = 12.06 per game (9 starts)
Sophomore - 780/34 games = 22.94 per game (28 starts)
Junior - 1,030/33 games = 31.21 per game (33 starts)
Senior - 897/30 games = 29.90 per game (30 starts) and counting
Career - 3,105/130 games = 23.88 per game (100 starts) and counting

Alex Harden's Career Totals by Category (Current Rank in Shocker Record Books):
Points - 1,641 (#1)
Rebounds - 659 (#9)
Assists - 430 (#3)
Steals - 265 (#2)
Blocks - 110 (#5)
Combined Total = 3,105 (#1)
Games Played - 130 (#3-T)
Average Combo Score/Game - 23.88 (#5)

Games Won - 96 (#2 to Kelsey Jacobs - #1 over a 4 year career)

Kelsey Jacobs has played in 127 of the 131 games that past 4 seasons plus she played in 9 games her true Freshman year before going down with season ending stress fracture and getting a medical redshirt. Kelsey only played about 7 minutes a game in those 9 games but the team was 6-3. By my calculations Kelsey has played in 99 wins as a Lady Shocker which makes her the winningest Lady Shocker in history.)

Kelsey Jacob's current career Combo Score is 1,595/136 = 11.73 per game.

Jamillah Bonner's current career Combo Score is 1,319/62 = 21.27 per game.

[1972Shocker]

Alex vs UNI III: 18 points + 9 rebounds + 0 assists + 2 steals + 1 block = 30 total

Career-To-Date: 3,105 + 30 = 3,135

All-Time List (In order of total HOF score):

1. 2011-15 Alex Harden (3,135/131 Games = 23.93/Game)
2. 2000-04 Angela Buckner (2,956/107 Games = 27.63/Game) *
3. 1982-86 Allison Daniel (2,817/110 Games = 25.61/Game) *
4. 1998-02 Jennifer Kaczka (2,798/114 Games = 24.54/Game) *
5. 1996-00 Lateesha Hill (2,686/114 = 23.56/Game)
6. 1992-96 Kim Evans (2,632/110 = 23.93/Game)
7. 1977-81 Terry O'Bryon (2,583/109 = 23.70/Game)
8. 2004-08 Kiki Stephens (2,509/115 = 21.82/Game)
9. 2009-13 Jessica Diamond (2,421/130 = 18.62/Game)
10. 1979-83 Theresa Dreiling (2,350/114 = 20.61/Game)
11. 1991-95 Ann Hollingsworth (2,314/111 = 20.85/Game)
12. 1980-84 Lisa Hodgson (2,288/112 Games = 20.43/Game) *
13. 2008-12 Haleigh Lankster (2,280/126 = 18.10/Game)
14. 2003-07 Antionette Wells (2,239/110 = 20.35/Game)
15. 1993-97 Tootie Shaw (2,176/111 = 19.60/Game)

* Shocker Hall of Fame Member - Also see initial post for this thread for a discussion or Shocker Hall of Famer Marguerite Keeley who played in 44 games over 2 seasons for the Shocks and averaged 20.8 PPG and 12.5 RPG in her career.

HOF Score = Career Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks

[1972Shocker]

Updated Through Saturday, March 14th:

Alex Harden's Combo Scores By Year:
Freshman - 398/33 games = 12.06 per game (9 starts)
Sophomore - 780/34 games = 22.94 per game (28 starts)
Junior - 1,030/33 games = 31.21 per game (33 starts)
Senior - 927/31 games = 29.90 per game (31 starts) and counting
Career - 3,135/131 games = 23.93 per game (101 starts) and counting

Alex Harden's Career Totals by Category (Current Rank in Shocker Record Books):
Points - 1,659 (#1)
Rebounds - 668 (#9)
Assists - 430 (#3)
Steals - 267 (#2)
Blocks - 111 (#5)
Combined Total = 3,135 (#1)
Games Played - 131 (#3)
Average Combo Score/Game - 23.93 (#4)

Games Won - 97 (#2 to Kelsey Jacobs - #1 over a 4 year career)

Kelsey Jacobs has played in 128 of the 132 games that past 4 seasons plus she played in 9 games her true Freshman year before going down with season ending stress fracture and getting a medical redshirt. Kelsey only played about 7 minutes a game in those 9 games but the team was 6-3. By my calculations Kelsey has played in 100 wins as a Lady Shocker which makes her the winningest Lady Shocker in history.)

Kelsey Jacob's current career Combo Score is 1,624/137 = 11.85 per game.

Jamillah Bonner's current career Combo Score is 1,333/63 = 21.16 per game.

[The Mad Hatter]

Alex only needs 2 more rebounds to move into a 3 way tie for 7th all time. I'm guessing that is the only category she will move up in rank other than games played.

[1972Shocker]

Alex only needs 2 more rebounds to move into a 3 way tie for 7th all time. I'm guessing that is the only category she will move up in rank other than games played.

That's the way it looks to me as well. What I would really love to see from Alex to close our her career would be to lead her team to a 30 win season. That will require at least one win in the NCAA Tournament (assuming they get there which I think will happen). If the Shocks don't get an invite to the NCAA they will most certainly be invited to play in the WNIT.

[1972Shocker]

Alex vs MSU III: 27 points + 6 rebounds + 4 assists + 7 steals + 2 blocks = 46 total

Career-To-Date: 3,135 + 46 = 3,181

All-Time List (In order of total HOF score):

1. 2011-15 Alex Harden (3,181/132 Games = 24.10/Game)
2. 2000-04 Angela Buckner (2,956/107 Games = 27.63/Game) *
3. 1982-86 Allison Daniel (2,817/110 Games = 25.61/Game) *
4. 1998-02 Jennifer Kaczka (2,798/114 Games = 24.54/Game) *
5. 1996-00 Lateesha Hill (2,686/114 = 23.56/Game)
6. 1992-96 Kim Evans (2,632/110 = 23.93/Game)
7. 1977-81 Terry O'Bryon (2,583/109 = 23.70/Game)
8. 2004-08 Kiki Stephens (2,509/115 = 21.82/Game)
9. 2009-13 Jessica Diamond (2,421/130 = 18.62/Game)
10. 1979-83 Theresa Dreiling (2,350/114 = 20.61/Game)
11. 1991-95 Ann Hollingsworth (2,314/111 = 20.85/Game)
12. 1980-84 Lisa Hodgson (2,288/112 Games = 20.43/Game) *
13. 2008-12 Haleigh Lankster (2,280/126 = 18.10/Game)
14. 2003-07 Antionette Wells (2,239/110 = 20.35/Game)
15. 1993-97 Tootie Shaw (2,176/111 = 19.60/Game)

* Shocker Hall of Fame Member - Also see initial post for this thread for a discussion or Shocker Hall of Famer Marguerite Keeley who played in 44 games over 2 seasons for the Shocks and averaged 20.8 PPG and 12.5 RPG in her career.

HOF Score = Career Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks