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I get the impression that he might prefer Baseball over Basketball, or at least feels he has a better chance of playing pro ball in Baseball over Basketball.
from the Drakenation link post:
Baseball Senior Year: Johnny hit .655, with 52 hits, 51 rbi's, 13 home runs, and stole 18 of 18 bases in just 21 games. He was drafted as a 3rd baseman by the Philadelphia Phillies in the 7th round of the 2008 MLB Draft.
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It is interesting to note that Des Moines (Drake) is 178 miles from St. Joseph, Mo. while Wichita is 238 miles, but the last 36 miles from Des Moines is a 2 lane highway, whereas it is all 4 lane highway from Wichita to St. Joseph.
So that would result in only about 40 minutes driving time difference.
I am sure it will probably be a small consideration for him in going home to see his parents, especially his Dad (who suffered a stroke).
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You've just got to wish a person like Coy the best regardless of where he plays. Some of the decisions he's made and the way he's made them show maturity and thought beyond what you would expect from someone his age.
The Phillies offered him 3rd round money and were going to let him go to college and play college ball - and get paid to play baseball only when school wasn't in session. That's got to be hard to refuse. Coy had the foresight to see the potential problems and took a bigger look at his future and made his decision.
Wherever he ends up, I think he's going to bring a lot of leadership and maturity to his teams.
WSU basketball needs to sign a 3 for next year. I don't know how fall workouts turned out, but as I recall, there wasn't an established 3B, so there seems to be a roster need there as well. WSU would be a great fit.
I'm going to respect his decision, regardless of what it is. He's pretty much established that he can face hard decisions and make them with clarity, purpose, and intelligence for what's best for him in the long run. You've got to respect that in someone who hasn't reached his 20th birthday yet.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.
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Originally posted by Dansounds like his brother is really pushing Drake. It makes you wonder if his family is pushing one way and the kid maybe wants to do something else. Sounds a lot like that article about Chris Harper in the paper the other day.
As for Chris Harper, that's another story... I could do like other posters and say I have the inside scoop on him and the Brown brothers then not tell you anything, so I won't... :whistle:
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Everything Johnny has been saying about his recruitment has all been true. Wichita State has an excellent shot at getting Johnny. The thing that Drake lacks the most (baseball program) is something that Wichita State definitely has. The thing that Wichita State lacks the most (relationship with the coaching staff) is something that Drake definitely has. Creighton was the school that was the definite favorite the second Johnny left Arizona State. It is not my place to say why things have changed, but things have changed. All the Creighton coaches, fans, etc. are all top notch and unbelievable people.
Johnny is completely open as of this second. He plans to keep an open mind until Jan 1. Wichita State has every opportuntiy to develop a relationship with Johnny over the next three weeks that could persuade him in their favor. I have spoken to Coach Marshall and he seems like a great guy and a great coach. I LOOK FORWARD to meeting the legend that is Coach Stephenson on Monday. Johnny knows Mark Phelps very well at Drake and there is not a doubt in our minds that he will treat Johnny very well. We just hope Coach Marshall and Coach Stephenson can put no doubt in Johnny's mind that Wichita State is the place for him.
I am talking about Wichita State and Drake on this board because those are the two schools being discussed on this board. That definitely doesn't mean those are the only schools that have a legitimate shot at Johnny.
As far as professional baseball is concerned: Obviously Johnny has tremendous potential in baseball and that can be proven by his 7th round draft selection by the Phillies. However, Johnny is in no hurry or desperate desire to play professional baseball at this time. We understand the cut-throat business that is professional baseball. So many players give up college and "survive" three or four years in the minors before they finally call it quits. That will never happen to Johnny. He will play pro baseball when he is ready physically, mentally, and emotionally. I spoke to Pat Murphy (ASU baseball coach) on the phone for about an hour on Monday. We discussed Johnny's situation and I told him about Johnny's interest in Wichita State and learned some valuable information about Coach Stpehenson and the baseball program at Wichita State. I like the idea that Coach Stephenson will play the best guys and doesn't care about what anyone thinks. He is a lot like Coach Murphy in that way. I also did research on other players who were drafted in baseball out of high school and attended schools that did not have baseball for college. The best example I found was Dennis Dixon who was the QB out of Oregon a couple of years ago. He was taken in the 20th round out of high school and went on to play QB at Oregon (who didn't have baseball at that time). He was drafted again after his junior year by the Atlanta Braves in the 5th round after playing no college baseball and instead summer baseball. He was taken soley on upside and athletic ability. That is what Johnny has a lot of. Johnny is 6'8, hits for power, ran a 6.8 sixty for the Phillies and Royals, played shortstop for most of his life and was drafted as a 3rd baseman. He can also play the outfield and first base. If Johnny chose Drake, Dixon would be the example of a player he would want to follow.
As of this moment I can honestly say that Johnny is fair game to any of the schools that are currently recruiting him. Our family is trying to do as much research as possible to put infront of him. Hopefully after his visits to various schools and after meeting the coaching staffs he will get that feeling of where he needs to be. No matter what he decides everyone on this board should understand that this is a huge decision and it won't be an easy one. He is 19 years old and in three weeks he has to make a decision that will affect the rest of his life. Whatever school he chooses is definitley not a slap in the face at any of the schools he will not choose. Bashing kids for making tough decisions is not really the way to go and I can't stand it when people do those things on message boards. It puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth and definitley won't help the opinions of future recruits when their day comes to make the huge decision. I hope I have helped out. We would love to meet some fans at the game on Monday and there is a huge possibility that we make it out for Wichita State's first road game in the Valley as well. Good luck on the season. While writing this I saw where there are thoughts that a family member may be pushing Johnny toward Drake. I can honestly say that it was the case for him going to ASU, but it won't be the case this time. I guarantee you that!!!!!!
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Originally posted by AarghYou've just got to wish a person like Coy the best regardless of where he plays. Some of the decisions he's made and the way he's made them show maturity and thought beyond what you would expect from someone his age.
The Phillies offered him 3rd round money and were going to let him go to college and play college ball - and get paid to play baseball only when school wasn't in session. That's got to be hard to refuse. Coy had the foresight to see the potential problems and took a bigger look at his future and made his decision.
Wherever he ends up, I think he's going to bring a lot of leadership and maturity to his teams.
WSU basketball needs to sign a 3 for next year. I don't know how fall workouts turned out, but as I recall, there wasn't an established 3B, so there seems to be a roster need there as well. WSU would be a great fit.
I'm going to respect his decision, regardless of what it is. He's pretty much established that he can face hard decisions and make them with clarity, purpose, and intelligence for what's best for him in the long run. You've got to respect that in someone who hasn't reached his 20th birthday yet.
There ends the lesson.
Allow me to echo the sentiments, no matter what the young man's decision, I wish him all the best and all the success he and his family deserve.
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Originally posted by rc20Everything Johnny has been saying about his recruitment has all been true. Wichita State has an excellent shot at getting Johnny. The thing that Drake lacks the most (baseball program) is something that Wichita State definitely has. The thing that Wichita State lacks the most (relationship with the coaching staff) is something that Drake definitely has. Creighton was the school that was the definite favorite the second Johnny left Arizona State. It is not my place to say why things have changed, but things have changed. All the Creighton coaches, fans, etc. are all top notch and unbelievable people.
Johnny is completely open as of this second. He plans to keep an open mind until Jan 1. Wichita State has every opportuntiy to develop a relationship with Johnny over the next three weeks that could persuade him in their favor. I have spoken to Coach Marshall and he seems like a great guy and a great coach. I LOOK FORWARD to meeting the legend that is Coach Stephenson on Monday. Johnny knows Mark Phelps very well at Drake and there is not a doubt in our minds that he will treat Johnny very well. We just hope Coach Marshall and Coach Stephenson can put no doubt in Johnny's mind that Wichita State is the place for him.
I am talking about Wichita State and Drake on this board because those are the two schools being discussed on this board. That definitely doesn't mean those are the only schools that have a legitimate shot at Johnny.
As far as professional baseball is concerned: Obviously Johnny has tremendous potential in baseball and that can be proven by his 7th round draft selection by the Phillies. However, Johnny is in no hurry or desperate desire to play professional baseball at this time. We understand the cut-throat business that is professional baseball. So many players give up college and "survive" three or four years in the minors before they finally call it quits. That will never happen to Johnny. He will play pro baseball when he is ready physically, mentally, and emotionally. I spoke to Pat Murphy (ASU baseball coach) on the phone for about an hour on Monday. We discussed Johnny's situation and I told him about Johnny's interest in Wichita State and learned some valuable information about Coach Stpehenson and the baseball program at Wichita State. I like the idea that Coach Stephenson will play the best guys and doesn't care about what anyone thinks. He is a lot like Coach Murphy in that way. I also did research on other players who were drafted in baseball out of high school and attended schools that did not have baseball for college. The best example I found was Dennis Dixon who was the QB out of Oregon a couple of years ago. He was taken in the 20th round out of high school and went on to play QB at Oregon (who didn't have baseball at that time). He was drafted again after his junior year by the Atlanta Braves in the 5th round after playing no college baseball and instead summer baseball. He was taken soley on upside and athletic ability. That is what Johnny has a lot of. Johnny is 6'8, hits for power, ran a 6.8 sixty for the Phillies and Royals, played shortstop for most of his life and was drafted as a 3rd baseman. He can also play the outfield and first base. If Johnny chose Drake, Dixon would be the example of a player he would want to follow.
As of this moment I can honestly say that Johnny is fair game to any of the schools that are currently recruiting him. Our family is trying to do as much research as possible to put infront of him. Hopefully after his visits to various schools and after meeting the coaching staffs he will get that feeling of where he needs to be. No matter what he decides everyone on this board should understand that this is a huge decision and it won't be an easy one. He is 19 years old and in three weeks he has to make a decision that will affect the rest of his life. Whatever school he chooses is definitley not a slap in the face at any of the schools he will not choose. Bashing kids for making tough decisions is not really the way to go and I can't stand it when people do those things on message boards. It puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth and definitley won't help the opinions of future recruits when their day comes to make the huge decision. I hope I have helped out. We would love to meet some fans at the game on Monday and there is a huge possibility that we make it out for Wichita State's first road game in the Valley as well. Good luck on the season. While writing this I saw where there are thoughts that a family member may be pushing Johnny toward Drake. I can honestly say that it was the case for him going to ASU, but it won't be the case this time. I guarantee you that!!!!!!
He's been here before so he's seen what we have to offer as far as facilities go which we all believe are about as good as they come. The fan base is great for both sports and absolutely love the Shox. I'm certain he'll get to know and love Coach Marshall and his staff/family. I just hope all of that's enough to get him to choose Wichita. I truely believe he could shine both inside of Koch and out at Eck.
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