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  • #61
    Hunter finished ninth in the 400m to end the first day of the men's decathlon.

    He is sixth at the end of the first day, only five points out of fifth.

    The schedule for the decathlon event is buried in here.

    I have no idea about his relative strength in the last five events.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by flyingMoose View Post
      Hunter finished ninth in the 400m to end the first day of the men's decathlon.

      He is sixth at the end of the first day, only five points out of fifth.

      The schedule for the decathlon event is buried in here.

      I have no idea about his relative strength in the last five events.
      Very solid day for Hunter. I know Day 1 is a better scoring day for Hunter than Day 2 is. On day 2 he is pretty strong I the 110H and the Pole Vault. I think the discus might be his weakest event on Day 2. But like @flyingMoose noted it is how strong he is relative to the field that counts.

      He was seeded 15th coming in based on best scores during this outdoor season. That might indicate he will fall back some tomorrow if things revert to form. Hopefully, he can hang on to a Top 12 finish and outperform his seed.

      The favorite and I think defending champion Lindon Victor of Texas A&M is in 3rd but looked like he may have pulled something during the 400 tonight. It will be interesting to see how that effects him tomorrow.

      If Hunter hit his PR in all 5 events tomorrow he would set a school record with 8,083 points but chances of that happening are quite low. I'm going to say Hunter will finish between 7,700 and 8,000 points. It he comes close to the high end of that range he will probably earn 1st team All-America honors (Top 8 finish).
      Last edited by 1972Shocker; June 7, 2017, 11:15 PM.

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      • #63
        According to the Shocker Twitter account Hunter's 4,242 points is a career best Day 1 total for him. Hopefully, he can do the same on Day 2.

        Day 2 will start with the 110H at 12:30 CDT. This is an event that Hunter can do well in. He ran the open 110H at the Valley Championships. However, it is also an event that in my uneducated opinion can be a bit dangerous. Clip a hurdle enough to stumble can wreck your time or even perhaps cause a fall or an injury.

        Hunter's PR in this event is 14.45 seconds which he ran in the open 110H at this year's Valley Championship prelims. He ran a 14.34 in the Valley Championship finals but it was wind-aided and isn't counted for recordkeeping purposes. A 15 second time earns 850 points. 14.5 seconds will garner 911 points.

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        • #64
          The 110H of the men's decathlon are run in six sections of four runners and are underway.

          Vieth won the second section with a time of 14.40, a lifetime best. That time earns 924 points.

          The standings after six events are to follow after the completion of all the sections.

          EDIT: Vieth's total of 5166 is good for fifth after six events and is just three points out of fourth. His time of 14.40 was third best of the 110H times.

          The Discus Throw is the next event.
          Last edited by flyingMoose; June 8, 2017, 01:52 PM.

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          • #65
            Great start for Hunter.

            If you would like to play with the scoring possibilities here is a good scoring calculator: https://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/combinedEventsScoring/

            Looks like Hunter will end up with the 3rd best time/score in the 110H. Overall Hunter moves up to 5th and is only 3 points out of 4th place.

            Up next is the discus and this is not one of Hunter's strengths. His PR in the discus is 38.10 (125 ft) which would only generate 626 points. Hopefully, he has a PR in him today. Not sure what the other guys capabilities are but a 125 foot discus throw doesn't seem real strong.

            Austin Bahner's school record of 7,847 points could be in jeapardy today. That would be a great target for Hunter to shoot for and would be a jump of close to 250 points form Hunter's previous best.

            Hunter needs 2,682 points over the final 4 events to break Austin's school record. So he would need to average 670.5 points pe event to do that. If he can perform close to his PR's he should be able to do this. He will probably average about 630 to 640 points in the discus, javelin and 1,500. The key then will be a strong performance in the pole vault (following the discus) where he is capable of a 900+ point vault.
            Last edited by 1972Shocker; June 8, 2017, 02:09 PM.

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            • #66
              I did a quick math plugging in PRs for the remaining 4 events. I know he wanted to hit 8000. 4 PRs would get him over 8000 with room to spare.

              Top 5 would be a hell of an accomplishment, and I hope he's able to finish strong.

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              • #67
                One has to think the Discus is the event where there is room for improvement so hopefully he's been able to make strides there of late.

                I doubt he sets a PR in the Vault as the 5.10 (nearly 16' 9") was reached in an open competition, not a decathlon (not positive on that) but still, that's a huge number for this event.

                Still, 38.10 in the discuss, and 55.53 (about 182') in the javelin seem doable. Now I don't know how anyone runs a 4:46 1500 so we'll just wait and plug in the numbers there when the time comes.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                  I did a quick math plugging in PRs for the remaining 4 events. I know he wanted to hit 8000. 4 PRs would get him over 8000 with room to spare.

                  Top 5 would be a hell of an accomplishment, and I hope he's able to finish strong.
                  He certainly has a shot with 4 peak or close to peak performances. He obviously would be the 1st in school history to reach 8 grand in the decathlon and surely that would be good enough for 1st Team All-American honors (Top 8 finish) and maybe even a Top 5 finish. I agree that would be a hell of an accomplishment.

                  This is a young man from Cheney who is still a relative newbie to many of the decathlon events. He was a strong high jumper, long jumper, triple jumper and javelin thrower in high school. Also he has had to battle injuries. After the 2nd outdoor meet of his freshman year he broke his left leg. I think either competing in or practicing the 110H. In his sophomore year he missed the entire outdoor season due to a torn elbow ligament that required Tommy John surgery to repair. I think he is just now getting back close to his high school form in the javelin.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                    If Hunter hit his PR in all 5 events tomorrow he would set a school record with 8,083 points but chances of that happening are quite low. I'm going to say Hunter will finish between 7,700 and 8,000 points. It he comes close to the high end of that range he will probably earn 1st team All-America honors (Top 8 finish).
                    Slaughtered me.....read more @WuDrWu: and post less.

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                    • #70
                      The Discus Throw is about to start. Hunter is in the second of two flights. Each decathlete gets three throws.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                        One has to think the Discus is the event where there is room for improvement so hopefully he's been able to make strides there of late.

                        I doubt he sets a PR in the Vault as the 5.10 (nearly 16' 9") was reached in an open competition, not a decathlon (not positive on that) but still, that's a huge number for this event.

                        Still, 38.10 in the discuss, and 55.53 (about 182') in the javelin seem doable. Now I don't know how anyone runs a 4:46 1500 so we'll just wait and plug in the numbers there when the time comes.
                        I am going to project a score of 7,870 points for Hunter. Good enough for the school record but short of the 8 grand mark. The 8 grand mark will fall for Hunter next year if he stays healthy. That will also probably be right on the edge of 1st Team All-America honors.

                        BTW, there are no AAC athletes in the decathlon finals so Hunter should be the top decatlete in the AAC next year.

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                        • #72
                          Flight 1 is underway. Hunter will compete in Flight 2 in the Discus.

                          If you're like me and struggle with your eyesight, the main line across the landing area is 40 meters so he will be looking to land near that line. Most competitors are over that line as @1972Shocker: said, this isn't his best event.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                            Flight 1 is underway. Hunter will compete in Flight 2 in the Discus.

                            If you're like me and struggle with your eyesight, the main line across the landing area is 40 meters so he will be looking to land near that line. Most competitors are over that line as @1972Shocker said, this isn't his best event.
                            The discus just seems to be so technical and technique dependent it is understandable that this would not be a strong event for most decathletes. Throw in Hunter's Tommy John Surgery in his sophomore year and it is even more understandable in his case.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                              The discus just seems to be so technical and technique dependent it is understandable that this would not be a strong event for most decathletes.
                              One competitor in the first flight hit the cage with his throw - out near the "exit," but the cage nonetheless.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by flyingMoose View Post
                                One competitor in the first flight hit the cage with his throw - out near the "exit," but the cage nonetheless.
                                I can see where that could easily happen. Lindon Victor on his top throw of Flight 1 came very close to clipping the cage and that throw landed no more than a foot inside the right out of bounds line.

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