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  • Originally posted by WSUShokker
    I think with BB coming up and our hopes for this season still up in the air. I think HCGM will be able to get the team to focus tonight and play with some consistency...
    Well since the love fest is back on... I thought Id at least eat a little crow..this post was pretty far off the mark....very little focus from the team as a whole...and not very consistent......Just enough tonight. Its why I typically stay away from the prediction threads ... I dont like throwing out any bad mojo..or to much koolaid
    1/16/2010 on the "Screw at the Q" HCGM... " Ive never seen a foul parade like that...If you would of let me know it was going to be a foul parade I would of brought a different team" .... "dont talk to me about fouls....Ive got to go back and look at some tape... I have some thoughts but I need to look at the tape and then I will have something very strong to say"

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    • Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
      The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

      I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

      The play went like this as follows:

      1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
      2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
      3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
      4. Foul called on Garrett.

      I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
      I'm no official, but it may have something to do with positioning? I wasn't thrilled with the calls either, but they didn't surprise me.
      "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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      • Didn't one of those hacks tonight referee the game at Creighton?

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        • refs were generally decent tonight

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          • Ball security was really an issue, also stupid, soft, lazy passes. JT, TM, and DK. Not a stellar night for any of them. Cleeeevun Hannah had a case of the Randy "drive into the trees" Burns, syndrome.

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            • Originally posted by shoxlax
              Didn't one of those hacks tonight referee the game at Creighton?
              David Hall might have.
              "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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              • Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

                I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

                The play went like this as follows:

                1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
                2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
                3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
                4. Foul called on Garrett.

                I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
                The replay on either the third or fourth foul showed Garret slapping Teague's arm at the last minute. If he had not done that, there would have been no foul call. Having said that, it was pretty tacky compared to many of the no-calls (for both sides) throughout the night. Especially when Garrett was hammered one time and didn't get a call.
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                • This was the most favorably ref'd road game we've had since 2006. We mugged the crap out of them in the first half (they got away with a lot too, we just exploited it more). The second half was very even, I thought.

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                  • Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                    The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

                    I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

                    The play went like this as follows:

                    1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
                    2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
                    3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
                    4. Foul called on Garrett.

                    I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
                    His arms were not straight up.

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                    • Yeah I just checked. David Hall was a ref for both the Creighton game in Omaha and this one tonight.
                      "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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                      • Way too many no-calls. Might have worked to our favor, actually.

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                        • Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                          The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

                          I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

                          The play went like this as follows:

                          1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
                          2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
                          3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
                          4. Foul called on Garrett.

                          I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
                          I agree RDR..it is a very frustrating call.....if you cup your hands down even they seem to call it on Garrett no matter what though... Did Garret come back in after his 4th foul or not
                          1/16/2010 on the "Screw at the Q" HCGM... " Ive never seen a foul parade like that...If you would of let me know it was going to be a foul parade I would of brought a different team" .... "dont talk to me about fouls....Ive got to go back and look at some tape... I have some thoughts but I need to look at the tape and then I will have something very strong to say"

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                          • Originally posted by WSUShokker
                            Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                            The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

                            I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

                            The play went like this as follows:

                            1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
                            2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
                            3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
                            4. Foul called on Garrett.

                            I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
                            Don't believe Garrett saw the floor again.
                            I agree RDR..it is a very frustrating call.....if you cup your hands down even they seem to call it on Garrett no matter what though... Did Garret come back in after his 4th foul or not
                            "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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                            • Originally posted by jocoshock
                              Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                              The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

                              I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

                              The play went like this as follows:

                              1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
                              2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
                              3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
                              4. Foul called on Garrett.

                              I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
                              The replay on either the third or fourth foul showed Garret slapping Teague's arm at the last minute. If he had not done that, there would have been no foul call. Having said that, it was pretty tacky compared to many of the no-calls (for both sides) throughout the night. Especially when Garrett was hammered one time and didn't get a call.
                              That was foul #3 where Garrett brought his left arm down over a rising Teague. Good call. Foul #4 baffled me as Garrett simply got beat and I don't recall him doing anything foul worthy. That was the spin move that went to the baseline. Not sure what the official saw there.
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                              • Originally posted by ShockerPrez
                                Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                                The last two fouls called on Garrett were unjustified in my view.

                                I hope some of the Shocker referees can explain the calls to me.

                                The play went like this as follows:

                                1. SIU offensive player receives a pass.
                                2. Defensive player Garrett stands still and hold arms straight up.
                                3. Offensive player shoots ball and leans into Garrett.
                                4. Foul called on Garrett.

                                I just hate this kind of call. Garrett has been the victim of this kind of call all season.
                                I'm not a referee, but I did sit in my WSU folding chair last night.

                                I believe that this is just a standard call in the MVC.
                                1/16/2010 on the "Screw at the Q" HCGM... " Ive never seen a foul parade like that...If you would of let me know it was going to be a foul parade I would of brought a different team" .... "dont talk to me about fouls....Ive got to go back and look at some tape... I have some thoughts but I need to look at the tape and then I will have something very strong to say"

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