Here we go...Games of Interest for week of 11/8 - 11/14

[shockerfan]

updated with yesterday's results.

So far:

Valley 2-1

Non-Conf Opp. 3-5 (guess I was off on the 7-5 guess...)

[Steeleshocker]

Actually, ShockerFever, Wichita State has done quite well against athletic big east teams in the past.

Providence twice
Seton Hall in the NCAA tourney
Syracuse the year after

Granted, those games are much older, and with a completely roster and coach, but it's not like the Big East has some freak athletes that we stand no chance of containing, especially considering their youth and loss of key players. Considering how we played last year as a very young and new team against Georgetown and Michigan State, I think the players can handle this.

By saying our team is lost on offense without CH is completely discounts the abilities of TM, DK, and GH. There were a number of times when TM and DK would play the 1-2 combo last year, and it worked quite well because of their length and being a nightmare for opposing guards to score against. So it's not like this hasn't been done before.

Also, our team had an exhibition and a week of practice to work on playing without CH. And if necessary, by the time we play Pitt, there will be two more games of experience.

Pitt gets us on a neutral court, within driving distance of our fans. I give us a 55/45 chance to win with CH, and a 40/60 chance without. We will be competetive either way. But our chances go up with CH.

[SubGod22]

We simply aren't the same team without Clevin. He's the leader on the floor and at times was the only reason we were in some games last year. Fever knows we have talent, but talent without leadership can only go so far. I'd feel a hell of a lot better about the Pitt game with Clevin. Without him I don't like our chances. We could still win sure, but it becomes much more difficult

[Steeleshocker]

Very true, Sub, but we better have more leaders this year if we want to taste some post-season basketball. Maybe it's a little early to tell who is going to step up, but what better time than when the starting point guard isn't in the game?

If we don't see Hatch and Durley (or somebody unexpected) step up as leaders this year, we won't get much better. It should be an expectation that someone will fill the leadership role that Clemente vacated.

I agree that our chances are much better with CH, but we still stand a good chance without him, IMO. As long as someone else steps up to take the reins.

[Ashockalypse]

We dont have much of a program if our season depends so much on one guy. I love the guy but we will be strong without him but stronger with him.

[shocks02]

Haha first play of the season

19:46 Creighton - P'Allen Stinnett misses a 25-foot three-pointer

[wsushox1]

Haha first play of the season

19:46 Creighton - P'Allen Stinnett misses a 25-foot three-pointer

Sounds about right.... :D :D


Thought I would pass this along...This is from GLOG (Game Log) on CbsSports.com

Kansas fan here cheering for the Flyers. I hate the Missouri Valley b.c they are trash and they play trash now that they actually play somebody they will lose

[ShockerFever]

We simply aren't the same team without Clevin. He's the leader on the floor and at times was the only reason we were in some games last year. Fever knows we have talent, but talent without leadership can only go so far. I'd feel a hell of a lot better about the Pitt game with Clevin. Without him I don't like our chances. We could still win sure, but it becomes much more difficult

Exactly. Thank you.

And Steele, I'm well aware of our prior Big East success. What you forgot to mention was our most recent run-in with a Big East opponent - Georgetown last year, in which we lost. Sure it was competitive, but it was fugly and we would later realize that G-Town was pretty bad last year.

[tropicalshox]

I've always liked our chances against Pitt. I still do even if it's without Clevin. Of course that will change if we don't play well in the next two games. If we do, we just might go into the game as a slight favorite or at worst a slight underdog.

[ShockerFever]

Haha first play of the season

19:46 Creighton - P'Allen Stinnett misses a 25-foot three-pointer

Perfect!

[ShockerFever]

We will not be favored against Pitt. I don't care if we win both of our next 2 games by a combined 200-100, which we conceivably could.

[wsushox1]

33-25 Creighton 6 minutes to go in the first half

[shocks02]

Creighton up 35-27. It is sCUm but any win over the top 25 will help us out a lot

[shocks02]

Biggest stat right here.

Field Goal Percentage
Creighton - 63%
Dayton - 39%

[wsushox1]

Yea the FG% is what is heipng Creighton out alot