Crowd

[Shox21]

I'm a student that comes to every single game and I wanted to give props to the crowd also. The past two games, we've had the best crowds we've had in a couple of years. I was sitting on the front row yesterday against ISU and when there was about 1 minute yet, we were just coming off a timeout and ISU was getting ready to inbound the ball. The crowd got SO loud that when Ramon was trying to yell something at Hawkins, A.J. couldn't hear him. A.J. was only about 10 ft. away and Ramon had to yell for about 10 seconds before getting his attention.

Anyways, keep it coming Shocker Fans! Stay on your feet and stay loud!

Ya mean even us old farts get credit this time?

[Snapshot9]

You could definately hear the crowd last night on TV, especially when the game was close. When Hawkins and Murry hit those back to back 3's, the roar was drowning out everything.

[Shox21]

What is it going to take to get the students to show up?

Maybe Sexton should go to some student groups and ask what it would take to get students to the games? I'm really bothersome when we are on national television and we have open sections that students SHOULD be in. And don't give me that age old crap of they have class to attend -- the entire university does not attend class every evening or weekend.

[WuDrWu]

Coach Fogler used to go to all the greek houses and promote attendance with what is likely the most "traditional" of students and even then we couldn't get 1100 students to show up at the games.

That was also a time where in a 3 year stretch we went to 3 postseasons, won about 90+% of our home games and lost exactly 1 home game in regulation iirc.


:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:


On a similar note.....I watched 2 coeds walking back to the dorms after the game last night..alone....how does every male over there let that happen? There should be 100% attendance for that reason alone. Youth is wasted on the young. :D

[Shox21]

Youth is wasted on the young. :D

Now that I agree 1000% with. It takes you X number of years to get enough smarts to handle life, then you're too blasted worn out to enjoy it. God got this backwards. Someone needs to have a little talk with him.

Seriously, I just don't understand the lack of interest of the students. In high school (at least during my time), we lived for game night. I'm not saying it should be put above everything else, but come on -- support your university. It costs nothing. It takes 2 to 2 1/2 hours of an evening or weekend.

[ShockerGorilla]

The crowd has been awesome these last 2 games. I can tell it is a good game when I come out of the arena with my ears ringing.

[SHOCKvalue]

An article in the Eagle back in November stated that these days WSU's enrollment is nearly 3/4 full-time traditional students (68%). So the age old adage about WSU being filled with uninterested, older students taking evening classes at a part-time load, really doesn't apply so much anymore.

Taking that into account when analyzing student turnout, certainly makes one wonder where they're all at.

[19SHOCKER76]

Maybe today's utes would rather play "NCAA Basketball 09" on their computers instead of watching the real deal. I can imagine both sides of this discussion. If this is true than it does not bode well for future attendance at CKA or any other venue for that matter. Any group that does not continually add young members will eventually cease to exist.

I am only guessing, but I would say the average age (in the stands) at a Shocker MBB game to be 45-50. As I watch other games on TV, it is difficult to tell for sure what the average age at those games might be because student sections always draw the most media attention.

I guess my question in this rambling is this: Is the fanbase of the Shockers typical? My head says yes, but my gut says no.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Maybe today's utes would rather play "NCAA Basketball 09" on their computers instead of watching the real deal. I can imagine both sides of this discussion. If this is true than it does not bode well for future attendance at CKA or any other venue for that matter. Any group that does not continually add young members will eventually cease to exist.

I am only guessing, but I would say the average age (in the stands) at a Shocker MBB game to be 45-50. As I watch other games on TV, it is difficult to tell for sure what the average age at those games might be because student sections always draw the most media attention.

I guess my question in this rambling is this: Is the fanbase of the Shockers typical? My head says yes, but my gut says no.

My gut would agree with your head of any program which requires large donations to go along with the price of tickets to be where they are noticed.

I come across many many in the 25-35 range in rows 28-33. Camera's typically don't make it that high though.

[19SHOCKER76]

Maybe today's utes would rather play "NCAA Basketball 09" on their computers instead of watching the real deal. I can imagine both sides of this discussion. If this is true than it does not bode well for future attendance at CKA or any other venue for that matter. Any group that does not continually add young members will eventually cease to exist.

I am only guessing, but I would say the average age (in the stands) at a Shocker MBB game to be 45-50. As I watch other games on TV, it is difficult to tell for sure what the average age at those games might be because student sections always draw the most media attention.

I guess my question in this rambling is this: Is the fanbase of the Shockers typical? My head says yes, but my gut says no.

My gut would agree with your head of any program which requires large donations to go along with the price of tickets to be where they are noticed.

I come across many many in the 25-35 range in rows 28-33. Camera's typically don't make it that high though.

I know what is set aside for students at CKA. I have never been to KSU or KU game. Is the student set aside at those schools similar, it doesn't appear to be.

I sit in row 32 and my observation is that some are in the 25-35 range and many are 50+.

[im4wsu]

An article in the Eagle back in November stated that these days WSU's enrollment is nearly 3/4 full-time traditional students (68%). So the age old adage about WSU being filled with uninterested, older students taking evening classes at a part-time load, really doesn't apply so much anymore.

Taking that into account when analyzing student turnout, certainly makes one wonder where they're all at.

The official wsu website suggests about half are full-time

http://admissions.wichita.edu/faq.htm#4

[SHOCKvalue]

An article in the Eagle back in November stated that these days WSU's enrollment is nearly 3/4 full-time traditional students (68%). So the age old adage about WSU being filled with uninterested, older students taking evening classes at a part-time load, really doesn't apply so much anymore.

Taking that into account when analyzing student turnout, certainly makes one wonder where they're all at.

The official wsu website suggests about half are full-time

http://admissions.wichita.edu/faq.htm#4

2008-2009 data from the WSU Office of Institutional Research:

http://webs.wichita.edu/depttools/depttoolsmemberfiles/oir/CDS2008_2009.pdf

2nd Page...

Total undergrads- 11,600
Full-time- 7,912 (68%)
Part-time- 3,688 (32%)

15th Page...

Average age of undergrad full-time students- 23
Average age of all undergrad students (full- and part-time)- 24

Lots of interesting stats in that link, if you're interested in demographic breakdown of WSU enrollment.

[Ricardo del Rio]

An article in the Eagle back in November stated that these days WSU's enrollment is nearly 3/4 full-time traditional students (68%). So the age old adage about WSU being filled with uninterested, older students taking evening classes at a part-time load, really doesn't apply so much anymore.

Taking that into account when analyzing student turnout, certainly makes one wonder where they're all at.

The official wsu website suggests about half are full-time

http://admissions.wichita.edu/faq.htm#4

2008-2009 data from the WSU Office of Institutional Research:

http://webs.wichita.edu/depttools/depttoolsmemberfiles/oir/CDS2008_2009.pdf

2nd Page...

Total undergrads- 11,600
Full-time- 7,912 (68%)
Part-time- 3,688 (32%)

15th Page...

Average age of undergrad full-time students- 23
Average age of all undergrad students (full- and part-time)- 24

Lots of interesting stats in that link, if you're interested in demographic breakdown of WSU enrollment.

What percentage of enrollment fees is paid by foreign students?

The answer is almost shocking.

[SHOCKvalue]

Most recent comparable data from our brethren:

KU-

http://www2.ku.edu/~oirp/Common/CDS07_08/KUCDS_2007_2008.pdf

Total undergrads- 20,828
Full-time- 18,571 (89%)
Part-time- 2,257 (11%)

Average ACT- 24.6

Top half of HS class- 90%

Applied vs. accepted- 92%

Average age of undergrad full-time students- 21
Average age of all undergrad students (full- and part-time)- 21


K-State-

http://www.k-state.edu/pa/statinfo/cds/cds2009.pdf

Total undergrads- 18,491
Full-time- 16,186 (87.5%)
Part-time- 2,305 (12.5%)

Average ACT- 23.5

% Top half of HS class- 90%

Applied vs. accepted- 84%

Average age of undergrad full-time students- 20.9
Average age of all undergrad students (full- and part-time)- 21.5


And updated WSU for comparo-

http://webs.wichita.edu/depttools/depttoolsmemberfiles/oir/CDS2008_2009.pdf

Total undergrads- 11,600
Full-time- 7,912 (68%)
Part-time- 3,688 (32%)

Average ACT- 23.5

Top half of HS class- 77%

Applied vs. accepted- 86%

Average age of undergrad full-time students- 23
Average age of all undergrad students (full- and part-time)- 24


Feel free to use the above numbers next time you get the "you're a community college filled with middle-aged drop-outs" crap from one of our two "world-class" in-state sister schools. :roll:

[Indy23]

Maybe today's utes would rather play "NCAA Basketball 09" on their computers instead of watching the real deal. I can imagine both sides of this discussion. If this is true than it does not bode well for future attendance at CKA or any other venue for that matter. Any group that does not continually add young members will eventually cease to exist.

I am only guessing, but I would say the average age (in the stands) at a Shocker MBB game to be 45-50. As I watch other games on TV, it is difficult to tell for sure what the average age at those games might be because student sections always draw the most media attention.

I guess my question in this rambling is this: Is the fanbase of the Shockers typical? My head says yes, but my gut says no.

My gut would agree with your head of any program which requires large donations to go along with the price of tickets to be where they are noticed.

I come across many many in the 25-35 range in rows 28-33. Camera's typically don't make it that high though.

I know what is set aside for students at CKA. I have never been to KSU or KU game. Is the student set aside at those schools similar, it doesn't appear to be.

I sit in row 32 and my observation is that some are in the 25-35 range and many are 50+.

KU used to have 7000+ seats set aside for students, which was the largest space for student seating in the country at the time. That number has dropped to about 4000 due to Lew's quest for more money. It sucks but I understand it.

We have had some trouble filling the student section completely this year. We still "sell out" every game in sold tickets, but there are usually some empty seats for the cupcake games. Overall attendance is down this year for NCAA hoops. Probably not helped by the economy issues.

KU has a priority seating system for season ticket holders and donors, so you're not going to find many young people in the lower half of the arena, besides in the student sections. More of Lew's quest for money.

Student apathy is a big problem for our football program. They all go to the games, which is great, they just don't stick around for the end of the game. It's getting better, but the "Jayhawk Walk" is still alive and well.