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  • Has the move to the AAC affected how you feel about bringing WSU football back?

    I thought it would be interesting to see whether the move to the AAC has affected how Shocker fans feel about football. In other words, did fans want football for its own sake or did they support it because they feared we could not move to a better conference without it.
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    I always wanted football and continue to want it
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    I wanted it primarily to get us in to a better conference
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    I never wanted football to come back
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    Right now, Navy will become one of my favorite football teams ever.
    Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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    • #3
      If Navy ever brings their team to Wichita to play a home game at Cessna and it's a sellout and the town is abuzz before and after the game...I would think after that event...their would be quite the "talks".
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      • #4
        The ironic thing is that we apparently are in the AAC because we have very strong basketball and no football and we happen to be a puzzle piece that fit very nicely with the unfinished puzzle the AAC had assembled. Perhaps a mega stroke of luck the way that worked out but somehow it worked out.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
          If Navy ever brings their team to Wichita to play a home game at Cessna and it's a sellout and the town is abuzz before and after the game...I would think after that event...their would be quite the "talks".
          I would be embarrassed to invite Navy to play a game at Cessna Stadium in its present condition. And if we aren't going to fix Cessna Stadium for a football program of our own why would we fix it up for one game that may or may not ever be played? If Navy ever plays a football game in Cessna Stadium I hope it would be against the Shocks. But clearly that isn't happening based on Dr. Bardo and ADDB acknowledging that the interest is just not there. And when they say interest they mean Money.
          Last edited by 1972Shocker; April 15, 2017, 02:39 PM.

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          • #6
            I would love to have football, but only under the right circumstances. Meaning a well funded, self sustaining program that does not suck resources from other programs especially men's basketball. That is the only way I would support the return of football. At this juncture, it does not look like it will happen in the foreseeable future.
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            • #7
              After reading the American -Aresco interview, There is talk about expanding the league in 2 to 3 years. WSU's Bardo and Darren Boatright said give them a couple of years and we'll see. It is our time to shine and show the American what we can do!!!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shocker-maniac View Post
                I would love to have football, but only under the right circumstances. Meaning a well funded, self sustaining program that does not suck resources from other programs especially men's basketball. That is the only way I would support the return of football.
                I agree with this. Having said that, I feel somewhat vulnerable not fielding a team in the conference's priority 1 sport. I can see that somewhere down the line a pro-football conference decision will be made to the detriment of WSU. I support the conference change. I hope everyone can deal with where we are in the hierarchy.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wusphlash View Post
                  I agree with this. Having said that, I feel somewhat vulnerable not fielding a team in the conference's priority 1 sport. I can see that somewhere down the line a pro-football conference decision will be made to the detriment of WSU. I support the conference change. I hope everyone can deal with where we are in the hierarchy.
                  A valid point. The vulnerability we have is if we are unable to maintain the quality of a men's basketball. If we had football who knows what we would have but mediocre basketball and mediocre football would be a possiblity (think Northern Iowa, Illinois State, Southern Illinois, Indiana State and Missouri State). That would be worse. I feel more comfortable in putting our resources into what we have proven we are best at.

                  It is just so hard to predict the future. Sounds like not having football may of actaully been a plus in getting into the AAC at this point time. Whether that becomes an albatross around our necks in the future is unknowable.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wusphlash View Post
                    I agree with this. Having said that, I feel somewhat vulnerable not fielding a team in the conference's priority 1 sport. I can see that somewhere down the line a pro-football conference decision will be made to the detriment of WSU. I support the conference change. I hope everyone can deal with where we are in the hierarchy.
                    Would the existence of a football team here change our influence in a decision like that anyways? K-State certainly has limited influence and has some serious questions it will face if something happens to the Big 12. Would we be any better positioned in a football based decision? I'm skeptical.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                      I would be embarrassed to invite Navy to play a game at Cessna Stadium in its present condition. And if we aren't going to fix Cessna Stadium for a football program of our own why would we fix it up for one game that may or may not ever be played? If Navy ever plays a football game in Cessna Stadium I hope it would be against the Shocks. But clearly that isn't happening based on Dr. Bardo and ADDB acknowledging that the interest is just not there. And when they say interest they mean Money.
                      But yet we are supposed to believe that a mere 40 million dollars would bring it up to condition for a new program. I don't care how anyone feels about bringing back FB, please please don't believe that lie. It would take at least twice that amount to accomplish the job.

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                      • #12
                        But don't you think if there were any problems with the stadium that we would not use it for track & field and Special Olympics etc...?
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                        "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
                        gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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                        • #13
                          I believe Cessna was referred to as "structurally sound", meaning it's not going to fall down and isn't a threat to anyone occupying it. Football fans are accustomed to something a little more luxurious than "not going to fall down". I bet it still has the 20' troughs across from the open-door stool stalls in the bathrooms. Those were fun.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                            I believe Cessna was referred to as "structurally sound", meaning it's not going to fall down and isn't a threat to anyone occupying it. Football fans are accustomed to something a little more luxurious than "not going to fall down". I bet it still has the 20' troughs across from the open-door stool stalls in the bathrooms. Those were fun.
                            Last time I was at a track meet a few years ago they did still have those although I don't recall if they were operational. I don't think they were.

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                            • #15
                              One would think or hope that NIAR would help us build some aerospace Shocker stadium! After all we are still the Air Capital. I can just see aerospace pics showing off the stadium and the NIAR facilities.
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                              "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

                              "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
                              gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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