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  • I give Carlson credit for a great second half tonight. I'm not going to give Carlson credit for UNI's two victories where we scored 50 and 52 points.
    Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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    • put mcduffie on carlson. all game long. he'll be laughing on the other side of his neck this time

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      • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
        are you guys serious? you're going to do this again? uni beat wichita state in wichita and st. louis last year. better put somebody on carlson ass.. because it didn't work last year in our favor, head to head. i wouldn't put kelly on him again.
        I'm with you. I'm not sure we have ever withstood a player hanging 9 on us.

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        • Pretty sure in those 2 freak games Carlson banked in 3 threes.

          Unit plays great D and that helps.

          But they have to hit 3s and hope we miss 3s to beat us.

          Sometimes you're just lucky.


          Ou had them down 18. You're just stupid if you lose that game. At least it barely helps our rpi.

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          • And congrats to uni. At least there's one valley team trying.

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            • some of you don't know **** about basketball.

              gotta put mcduffie on carlson. carlson is the best forward defender in the mvc. mcduffie has to challenge that. it has to be.

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              • So happy for UNI! Fun, well coached team to watch.

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                • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
                  some of you don't know **** about basketball.

                  gotta put mcduffie on carlson. carlson is the best forward defender in the mvc. mcduffie has to challenge that. it has to be.
                  Let's be clear, here are the two positions that have been made concerning the loss to UNI in the MVC tournament:

                  Position 1: We lost because we couldn't defend Carlson. Carlson scored 9 points on 7 shots.

                  Position 2: We lost because we couldn't score the ball ourselves (full credit to UNI defense). We scored 47 points in regulation and shot 8.3% from 3 point range for the game.

                  It is certainly true that a person who holds one of these two positions doesn't know anything about basketball. I'll let others come to their own conclusions about which camp that is true of.
                  "Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling players

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                  • Originally posted by The Mad Hatter View Post
                    Let's be clear, here are the two positions that have been made concerning the loss to UNI in the MVC tournament:

                    Position 1: We lost because we couldn't defend Carlson. Carlson scored 9 points on 7 shots.

                    Position 2: We lost because we couldn't score the ball ourselves (full credit to UNI defense). We scored 47 points in regulation and shot 8.3% from 3 point range for the game.

                    It is certainly true that a person who holds one of these two positions doesn't know anything about basketball. I'll let others come to their own conclusions about which camp that is true of.
                    You forgot that besides Carlson, UNI spread the entire floor with all 5 players taking Carlson and Shaq away from the basket, and UNI's PG (quick as snot but I forget his name-a left hander) hurt Fred one on one by driving to the rim.

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                    • Originally posted by shockmonster View Post
                      You forgot that besides Carlson, UNI spread the entire floor with all 5 players taking Carlson and Shaq away from the basket, and UNI's PG (quick as snot but I forget his name-a left hander) hurt Fred one on one by driving to the rim.
                      Washpun ..

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                      • Conner guarded Washpun pretty well that game when he got the chance. Blocked his shot at least once IIRC.

                        We had a bunch of open threes that game and couldn't put them in. UNI shortened the game, played good D, and hit shots. They're a good team. One that doesn't get enough respect nationally.

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                        • Originally posted by shockmonster View Post
                          You forgot that besides Carlson, UNI spread the entire floor with all 5 players taking Carlson and Shaq away from the basket, and UNI's PG (quick as snot but I forget his name-a left hander) hurt Fred one on one by driving to the rim.
                          We also held them to 47 in regulation. Our failure to deal with their zone in both losses was what did us in.
                          Its a good landing if you can walk away, its a great landing if the plane can be reused the next day.

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                          • The UNI game at the Arch was example 1A of how bad last year"s ball movement could be.

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                            • I believe that sets up back to back games in 6 days against nationally ranked Xavier for the Panthers.

                              Another thing you can't complain about is how they schedule. Yes they get some help and a fortunate turn here and there, but they'll play Xavier X2, Oklahoma, UNC, Iowa & San Diego State in 6 of their 11 non-con games. Pretty stout.


                              My bad, that's South Dakota State, not San Diego State. They get Wyoming in the MW MVC Challenge.

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                              • Any time a guy scores 9 points for the game, he was not the reason you lost. If a guy scoring 9 points was the unstoppable difference in the game, you didn't score enough points...

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