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  • Good stuff, Doc
    One quick note before we present the rankings: With Wichita State’s move to the American Athletic Conference, the Shockers have moved out of the mid-major club. We wish the Shockers well against Cincinnati, UConn, SMU, and more.

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    • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
      Gregg vs Jerry

      I'm sure this is else where, but even if it is, everyone needs to find it.

      Pettyweight champion Gregg Marshall: 1

      61st-ranked bracketologist Jerry Palm: 0

      That's top shelf work right there.
      After that, we can probably expect an eternity of Palm openly hating WSU and Marshall with no shame.

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      • Originally posted by Dave Stalwart View Post
        After that, we can probably expect an eternity of Palm openly hating WSU and Marshall with no shame.
        I think a bunch of TV guys "slightly biased" against WSU is the worst. People believe people who are in the realm of reality.

        If Jerry goes off the deep end, its free pub for WSU, and despite its negativity, will likely earn the Shox more fans as casual observers love to fight for the little guy who constantly gets screwed.

        Best case is Palm really does let this affect his judgment and he goes deeper into the negative insanity.

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        • Originally posted by T.VuOP View Post
          Lunardi's bracket is quite good except the 1st round. I'd prefer a P5 to VCU. However, if it were VCU, it's time for a payback for our loss to them in the round of 64 in 2012
          Meh. I agree that I'd rather get a middling P5...but I am not feeling the revenge factor towards VCU since Shaka is gone.
          78-65

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          • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
            Meh. I agree that I'd rather get a middling P5...but I am not feeling the revenge factor towards VCU since Shaka is gone.
            Shaka taking the Texas job is for me revenge enough.

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            • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
              Meh. I agree that I'd rather get a middling P5...but I am not feeling the revenge factor towards VCU since Shaka is gone.
              You don't feel like a WSU vs. the all hair team would be fun?
              Its a good landing if you can walk away, its a great landing if the plane can be reused the next day.

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              • Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
                Shaka taking the Texas job is for me revenge enough.
                The way it's going down there, I'd say he's been punished enough.

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                • Back to Lunardi's bracket, I also like to switch place of Dayton in the South region as the 8th seed.
                  Whatever you ask for in prayer with faith, you will receive. (Mt 21:22)

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                  • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                    I think a bunch of TV guys "slightly biased" against WSU is the worst. People believe people who are in the realm of reality.

                    If Jerry goes off the deep end, its free pub for WSU, and despite its negativity, will likely earn the Shox more fans as casual observers love to fight for the little guy who constantly gets screwed.

                    Best case is Palm really does let this affect his judgment and he goes deeper into the negative insanity.
                    I just don't understand how Palm has Cal in but didn't have WSU in.

                    His whole schtick was that WSU "hasn't beaten anyone" so that means they're out. But Cal has literally beaten nobody and lost to some BAD teams like Oregon State and their 273 RPI. Plus WSU has a higher RPI than Cal.

                    It's like he has them in JUST because they're in the PAC 12 and that's it. Or he's just looking at SOS, which is ridiculous in it's own right.

                    He really looked like a fool during the game Sunday when he put that graphic up during halftime with WSU out and Cal in.

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                    • Yeah, the inclusion of Cal is insane. Only 6 of the 107 brackets on the matrix have them in. To have them in ahead of WSU is bonkers.

                      RPI
                      WSU - 29
                      Cal - 56

                      KenPom
                      WSU - 10
                      Cal - 55

                      vs KenPom "A rated" games
                      WSU: 2-4
                      Cal: 1-8

                      vs KenPom "B rated" games
                      WSU: 6-0
                      Cal: 3-3

                      Best win
                      WSU @ISUr (RPI 30, KenPom 49)
                      Cal: @USC (RPI 39, KenPom 59)

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                      • Originally posted by Dave Stalwart View Post
                        The way it's going down there, I'd say he's been punished enough.

                        I'm not convinced that Smart's system works with 5 star kids. Same thing true here.

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                        • Originally posted by XManCometh View Post
                          I just don't understand how Palm has Cal in but didn't have WSU in.

                          His whole schtick was that WSU "hasn't beaten anyone" so that means they're out. But Cal has literally beaten nobody and lost to some BAD teams like Oregon State and their 273 RPI. Plus WSU has a higher RPI than Cal.

                          It's like he has them in JUST because they're in the PAC 12 and that's it. Or he's just looking at SOS, which is ridiculous in it's own right.

                          He really looked like a fool during the game Sunday when he put that graphic up during halftime with WSU out and Cal in.

                          It's a moving target with him. First it's RPI, then that doesn't fit his argument so it becomes Top 100 W-L record. When that becomes a better factor in our favor, then all of a sudden it's SOS---which is undoubtably his argument for Cal. While predicting the selection committee's opinion is one thing, picking and choosing whatever standard excludes us or makes us look the worst reeks of witch hunt.

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                          • It doesn't matter anymore!
                            We IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            FINAL FOURS:
                            1965, 2013

                            NCAA Tournament:
                            1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                            NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                            AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                            Number of Times Ranked: 157
                            Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                            Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                            Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                            Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                            #3 - Dec. 2017
                            #2 ~ March 2014

                            Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                            #2 ~ March 2014
                            Finished 2013 Season #4

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                            • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                              I'm not convinced that Smart's system works with 5 star kids. Same thing true here.
                              It's an interesting thought but I'm not sure if there's much difference betweeen what he does and WVU. HAVOC is gimmicky, Marshall just coaches good fundamental all around hoops. (Not that there is anything wrong with Smarts style)

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                              • Why is there always some 'Douche Bag' picking on us?

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