2016-17 Schedule

[WuShock16]

We played Iowa for the 7th place game in Orlando this year. It's pretty tough to say who is going to end up as a good win/loss, especially 8 months out.

Orlando this past year was pretty balanced overall. This tournament, at least as of right now, looks pretty top-heavy. Yes, a lot can happen in the next few months, but to have this tournament be a weapon for WSU rather than against WSU come Selection Sunday, WSU has to play Louisville and/or Michigan State. For that to happen, WSU probably has to win the first game.

[shocka khan]

Atlantis can be either pay as you go or all inclusive. Lots of restaurants on property and a few adjacent that are less pricey. A bottle of water goes for $8.

If you stay in the pedestrian tower where the casino is, there is both a convenience store and a liquor store close.

And you're absolutely correct about the water. Also soft drinks and mixed drinks are pricey. Since I'm a cheap bastard, I bought a bottle and mixer, did the all inclusive, and if I wanted more than a couple of drinks, I'd make them in my room.

[shocker43]

Does anyone know a price range for staying at the resort or an all inclusive deal?

[Iseeoz]

Does anyone know a price range for staying at the resort or an all inclusive deal?

Was there about a month ago and we got a room in Coral Towers for about $269 a night before taxes, resort fee, VAT, $30 bellman fee, etc. Ended up much, much higher.

[shoxlax]

Baylor gets beat down bad by graduation and they underachieve when they have talent

[ShockCrazy]

Baylor gets beat down bad by graduation and they underachieve

FIFY

[60Shock]

My comments aren't directed at you but more at this logic which many people share:

This logic is crap! Wichita State has been a minimum Top 75 opponent for the last seven seasons...many times, much better than that. This everything-to-lose, nothing-to-gain garbage about Wichita State is annoying. It is impossible to win at Kansas and almost as impossible to beat Kansas at home...yet any team in America would gladly sign a home-and-home with Kansas.

I give no sympathy to a Power-5 school who misses the NCAA Tournament after having a 200-or-worse non-conference SOS. You obviously did not work very hard at scheduling. Even if you lose (God forbid!), you might actually learn something from playing Wichita State. The experience might make you tougher.

What do North Carolina and Virginia have in common this season? Both lost to a non-P5 school on the road...and both still got #1 seeds. Those losses obviously did not hurt them that much. Of anything, those losses could have been used to re-focus the team.

Sorry....rant over...

True, we have been extremely successful under GM's leadership and Mark's as well, for nearly a decade. Logically, winning or losing to us should be basically the same as losing to a very good PF conference team.

Unfortunately, WUS16, we often make the assumption that we are living in a logical world and that the schools in the Power 5 conferences are logical themselves. Realizing that our 2016/17 schedule isn't completely filled yet, but at the present time, after all our BB success, we have only one PF school, OU, who is willing to play us at home and away, and this is after 5 continuous years qualifying for and being successful in the NCAA tournament.

To relate it to the real world, even though we have been successful, we have been stuck in the same old rundown neighborhood for what, 70 years or so. At its heyday, it was the cream of the crop, first class, but over the years it has badly deteriated and all the buildings are tarnished and run down, and almost all the people who worked and were successful have moved out or died. But we were comfortable and stayed. And now we have tremendous difficulties trying to attract visitors from other states to the one shinning facilty which is still standing.

Like the story in Field of Dreams, we built the playing field, and even refurbished it, and our fans came. Unfortunately, we still have tremendous problems attracting worthy opponents.

Hopefully, this soon will someday change and perhaps OU may be the catalyst that brings it about, but it may very well take a number of years more to do so

[WuShock Reaper]

"What UNC, Villanova, Syracuse and Oklahoma will look like next season" - By Jon Rothstein | CBS Sports

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25540819/what-unc-villanova-syracuse-and-oklahoma-will-look-like-next-season

OKLAHOMA

The Sooners will lose three proud veterans in Cousins, Hield, and Spangler, but there's still enough left over to compete for a bid to the NCAA Tournament. Woodard will be one of the better guards in the Big 12 as a senior and the Sooners' staff is also expecting a breakout year from Buford at power forward. James, Odomes, and Grandstaff (eligible in December) should log the bulk of the minutes on the wing along with incoming freshman Kameron McGusty -- a Top-50 recruit nationally. Expect freshman power forward Kristian Doolittle to be a quality reserve behind Buford.

• Key Losses: Isaiah Cousins, Buddy Hield, Ryan Spangler

• Key Newcomers: Austin Grandstaff (Ohio State), Kameron McGusty, Kristian Doolittle

• Projected Starting Five: Jordan Woodard, Christian James, Rashard Odomes, Dante Buford, Khadeem Lattin

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Not WSU, but a fellow MVC member snagged a nice addition for the next two seasons. I hope we see more of this.

https://twitter.com/PaulSuellentrop/status/735879496298037251

[Cdizzle]

Very nice game.

[ShockdaWorld]

Nice. The Valley needs a lot more of these games if we are meant to stay and be respected.

[ripemupshocks]

MWC/MVC Challenge:

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2016/5/29/11765064/the-mountain-west-missouri-valley-challenge-more-harm-than-help

[another shocker]

Very nice game.

not to mention, do they get a return at north carolina this next year? the funny thing is, they will make a game of it. (who started that "uni builds for an every fourth year run" crap?)

shockers get oklahoma back-to-back, which is okay (ou is no basketball power like north carolina). can wichita state not talk to kentucky and calipari, who is usually complimenatry of the shockers?

[AndShock]

UNI has been a top 50 KenPom team twice during Jacobson's tenure, 2010 and 2015. Saying they were top 50 is kind of misleading though. They were 12th in 2015 and 19th in 2010. Every other year they've been 66th or worse. Maybe "UNI builds for an every fifth year run" would be more accurate.

[ShockingButTrue]

kenpom? Isn't that a statistical conglomerate? What was Texas ranked in the final regular season kenpom?