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[ShockdaWorld]

I don't think fumbling the ball once you get it in your hands has anything to do with 'making moves'. I know I saw that in the Miami game and I'm just as sure that I saw it in other games. Fred (or Ron, or someone else) throws the ball down low to RK, who either fumbles it out of bounds or fumbles it on the way up and misses the shot.

I absolutely agree with that. I was just referring to the shot percentages that were brought up earlier to compare them.

[SHOCKvalue]

No kidding.

Someone referenced stats earlier, RK vs. Kadeem & Chadrack (I'll exclude Cle). The only conclusion drawn is that they were more efficient performers than RK. I'm hoping RK can get to their level eventually. I believe by his senior year he can.

Apples and oranges.

[rrshock]

I think comparing current players performances compared to the performance of the final four team members isn't exactly fair. Let's face it, Armstead, Early and Co. Made teams spread out. Shooting the absolute horrid percentage from outside this year allowed teams to collapse and double team alot easier. RK plays a position that was easily doubled.

The three headed monster was really good. But that bunch on the outside was really special.

Thus comparison is just about an apples to oranges discussion.

[im4wsu]

is this pure FG%? or just shots next to the basket? If it is inclusive of all FG attempts then Early should be removed, many more perimeter shots than the others.

Your point is likely still valid though, its not so far out of bounds from the other 3 in that comparison.

Here are the inside the paint and outside the paint breakdowns:

In the Paint
	Games	FGM	FGA	Percent
Non-Con	17	12	29	41.40%
Conf.	18	27	49	55.10%
Total	35	39	78	50.00%
Outside the Paint
	Games	FGM	FGA	Percent
Non-Con	17	8	31	25.80%
Conf.	18	7	17	41.20%
Total	35	15	48	31.30%
All FG Attempts
	Games	FGM	FGA	Percent
Non-Con	17	20	60	33.30%
Conf.	18	34	66	51.50%
Total	35	54	126	42.90%

[ShockingButTrue]

I'm not putting RK in the same league as those guys or anything, but those guys played within about 3 feet of the rim 90% of the time. And yes, he no doubt missed a lot of shots in that same space, he was usually making moves to get there that they never had to make. They also had about 4 inches and some pounds on him, so it's really not a great comparison.

My point was those two guys were efficiently modest i.e. consistent.

Again, I believe he can get there to performing at a modest level. Just hit the bunnies.

[ShockdaWorld]

My point was those two guys were efficiently modest i.e. consistent.

Again, I believe he can get there to performing at a modest level. Just hit the bunnies.

My bad. I was misunderstanding your comparison. You are correct about the bunnies. If everyone had hit the bunnies against Miami, we probably would have been moving on.

[pie n eye]

My bad. I was misunderstanding your comparison. You are correct about the bunnies. If everyone had hit the bunnies against Miami, we probably would have been moving on.

Not to mention a couple of wide open threes. Who knows what would have happened if we got past the immensely difficult first week the selection committee laid out for us.

Villanova would have been a very, very tough task. We would have had to play much better on offense to beat them. I think it's fairly safe to say we wouldn't have lost by 40. I also think we would have given them a better game than Miami. No offense to Miami, they were a very good team. We made their defense look much better than it was though.

I still wonder how we went from top 25 offensive efficiency in January to 94 at the end of the year.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Who didn't?

Baker among them, but I am not banging on Ron.

The Miami loss was a team effort.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Who knows what would have happened if we got past the immensely difficult first week the selection committee laid out for us.

The Shocks were treated so poorly, one has to wonder, if the NCAA has any idea about logistics and game fatigue.

[60Shock]

The Shocks were treated so poorly, one has to wonder, if the NCAA has any idea about logistics and game fatigue.

I am of the opinion that they knew exactly what they were doing. How could they not?

[Heinro]

I am of the opinion that they knew exactly what they were doing. How could they not?

I don't think it was a matter of knowing what they were doing. It was a matter that they slotted us in Providence, with Duke. We all should have instantly recognized we would be one of the early games. When was the last time Duke had to share a time slot?

[WSUwatcher]

Probably a good point, Heinro -- but they wouldn't have done that to Duke or any of a number of other big name P5 teams; for those guys the NCAA pays attention to TV times and slots. For WSU, they just put them in someplace and let the chips fall where they may. The Dayton-Providence swing was poor logistics, though, and WSU deserved better.

[choida]

They don't want you to win...-DJ Khaled

[ShockingButTrue]

They don't want you to win...-DJ Khaled

I might sound like a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but I believe the committee felt their arms were twisted back in '14 & that they had to give us a #1 which they didn't believe we really earned because, you know, it's the Valley.

Never mind we were one shot away from the National Finals less than 12 months earlier. It was almost like a lot of people forgot, or disregarded that fact. It was mondo bizarro to say the least.

[Dan]

Not sure if this has been brought up, but I wish the NCAA would take the 4 worst resumes of the 68 teams and put them in Dayton, regardless of auto qualifiers or at-large. This would weed out 2 weak teams and send the 2 winners to play a 1 seed the first weekend.