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[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Laugh if you want, but they beat us twice last year...

Careful, Prez; you may turn into JH4P.

Oh please. I'm smart enough to know that 2 wins doesn't equal a "better program".

Last 5 years:

	WSU	UNI
NCAA Wins	9	2
NCAA Appearances	5	2
MVC Regular Season Titles	4	0
MVC Tournament Titles	1	2
Head-to-Head Wins	7	4

@ShockerPrez's comment was the exact type of cherry picking stat that I fight against. Don't lump me in with that garbage.

[pie n eye]

I don't really care what the UNI fans think about WSU vs UNI. We're very good right now and that's all that really matters. The Valley needs as many successful teams as possible. As long as they're not playing the Shockers I root for UNI.

[Horn28Clem30]

I don't really care what the UNI fans think about WSU vs UNI. We're very good right now and that's all that really matters. The Valley needs as many successful teams as possible. As long as they're not playing the Shockers I root for UNI.

If you lived in Iowa around all these moron fans, you'd feel different. I cheer against UNI no matter who they are playing! I absolutely despise them and their fan base. It's actually comical though... you don't hear a peep from them the last few years except when they end up winning the Valley tourney then all of a sudden social media is flooded w/ it.

[SHOCKvalue]

If you lived in Iowa around all these moron fans, you'd feel different. I cheer against UNI no matter who they are playing! I absolutely despise them and their fan base. It's actually comical though... you don't hear a peep from them the last few years except when they end up winning the Valley tourney then all of a sudden social media is flooded w/ it.

If you like to make your arguments with numbers, then you essentially have an AR15 with a full magazine, if you happen to decide you want to pick it up and shoot it at annoying UNI-ers.

[pie n eye]

If you lived in Iowa around all these moron fans, you'd feel different. I cheer against UNI no matter who they are playing! I absolutely despise them and their fan base. It's actually comical though... you don't hear a peep from them the last few years except when they end up winning the Valley tourney then all of a sudden social media is flooded w/ it.

Fair enough. I guess I just want to try as much as possible to avoid acting like certain fan bases.

[Horn28Clem30]

Just an example...some dude on the Panther message board said that they expect great things next year because they have the best coach in the Valley and in all NCAA in his opinion. Really?

[WUpigsooie]

Just an example...some dude on the Panther message board said that they expect great things next year because they have the best coach in the Valley and in all NCAA in his opinion. Really?

You'd think the best coach in the NCAA could hold a 12 point lead with less than a minute left....

[ShockerPrez]

Oh please. I'm smart enough to know that 2 wins doesn't equal a "better program".

Last 5 years:

	WSU	UNI
NCAA Wins	9	2
NCAA Appearances	5	2
MVC Regular Season Titles	4	0
MVC Tournament Titles	1	2
Head-to-Head Wins	7	4

@ShockerPrez's comment was the exact type of cherry picking stat that I fight against. Don't lump me in with that garbage.

I wasn't cherry picking anything. Those same numbers you posted over the most recent 2 years would look much similar.
You brought in 3 extra years where WSU was clearly dominant, to i guess prove our program is better, which I am no arguing. Just saying that they beat us 2 outta 3 last year. Let 'em be happy.

God knows we need a program that wants to be like us, even if they can't.

It's better than the rest of the bullshit in the league.

[Cdizzle]

God knows we need a program that wants to be like us, even if they can't.

It's better than the rest of the bullshit in the league.

This is true.

Although what we really need is another conference to want us.

[OregonShocker]

Exceedingly well coached (and insanely fortunate) group of overachievers. They've got A LOT more to worry about in terms of falling next year than we do.

And a lot more to worry about in terms of keeping their coach, in my opinion.

[Stickboy46]

And a lot more to worry about in terms of keeping their coach, in my opinion.

Yup, would be pretty easy to put together a package to draw Jacobsen away from UNI. Though he's not on most power conference schools radar. Which is odd considering he's "the best coach in the Valley and the nation"

[Horn28Clem30]

Yup, would be pretty easy to put together a package to draw Jacobsen away from UNI. Though he's not on most power conference schools radar. Which is odd considering he's "the best coach in the Valley and the nation"

Couldn't agree more.... Do you ever hear his name associated with any school when it comes open?

[WSUwatcher]

... considering that (Ben's) "the best coach in the Valley and the nation"

No, stick -- that's Barry Hinson. Don't let the UNI posters fool you.

[Stickboy46]

No, stick -- that's Barry Hinson. Don't let the UNI posters fool you.

Can't believe we have to settle for a middle-tier MVC coach. What's wrong with us?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

to i guess prove our program is better, which I am not arguing. Just saying that they beat us 2 outta 3 last year. Let 'em be happy.

You agree WSU's program is much better? Good. @Horn28Clem30: used the word "program" 4 times in his post. You quoted him and basically said "yeah, but what about those 2 games last year?" Anytime you say "yeah, but..." it sure comes across as disagreement.

If all you wanted to imply was "let 'em be happy", fine. However, that is quite different from "let them make stupid claims that the programs are equal." Glad we all can agree that anyone who thinks the programs are equal is not quite right in the head.