MVC Tourney - WSU vs UNI Game Thread

[shockerfan]

Calm down-you guys sound like a bunch of entitled KU asshats.

We did not play well, Coach did not make adjustments. Our seniors were not composed. Fred had back to back poor games. All is true. But we have to look at the BL-we won this league by 4 games and are more the team we saw on senior day than the last two days.



We will still dance absent a horrific screw job.

I would have the bottle of lube next to you on selection sunday. Just in case lol

[60Shock]

Grady played a great offensive game, but he and Morris don't seem to be able to avoid attracting a slew of fouls.

Morris picked up his first around 19 seconds into the game and another one 61 seconds into the 2nd half.

Obviously, we need to be knee deep at the center position and hopefully can pick up at least one more for next season.

[ShockerFever]

Fred and Marshall get F's. There is no doubt about that.

Fred definitely isn't the same player he was his sophomore and to a lesser extent his junior years. Too selfish, too much 1-on-1, too much trying to do too much.

That was some of the worst end-of-game management I have ever seen. Fred fumbling the ball away. Stand around dribbling with a shot clock violation AFTER A MOTHERF******* TIMEOUT? Continued nonchalant dribbling when you're down 3 with 20 seconds left.

That is putrid.

If this is the team that's gonna represent in the tournament, I'd just soon them not be in it. I certainly wouldn't want anyone to see that torturous garbage for 2 hours again this year.

[LandStander]

Coaching was even worse and it is ALWAYS bad in St Louis. Coach def proved right there that he wasn't the mvc coach of the year.

So Barry proved last night he did deserve COtY?

[mjbaker84]

Washpun was given WAAAAY too much space in the paint. We did not collapse or help effectively on him, and he did what great senior players do ... took full advantage of it.

agreed 100%

[Aargh]

Many here will not want to hear this, but Van Vleet is just horrendous right now. He is selfish, refuses to throw the ball to anyone but baker. He does nothing to help this team play as a team.

I read a quote in a recent article where Van Vleet was quoted as saying, he deferred to much in the Kentucky loss because he trusted his teammates and didn't do as much as he could do himself. Obviously that is what he is doing now, not playing team ball and that makes him a liability right now.

Glad someone besides me said that. There was an odd quote from FVV after the IlSU loss. He said (paraphrased), "We know what we have to do, at least us Seniors do". That just didn't sound right - it sounded like only the seniors knew that they had to play hard to win.

[mjbaker84]

So Barry proved last night he did deserve COtY?

I think it proved jacobson has been better than barry and marshall right now.

[vancedave56]

I will watch the Shocks where ever they go.

[1972Shocker]

Great game guys I will be rooting for you to get a bid on Selection Sunday.

I think you still get a bid.

I hope you are right about getting a bid. However, no way was this anywhere close to a good game.

[Shoxfan11]

Calm down-you guys sound like a bunch of entitled KU asshats.

We did not play well, Coach did not make adjustments. Our seniors were not composed. Fred had back to back poor games. All is true. But we have to look at the BL-we won this league by 4 games and are more the team we saw on senior day than the last two days.



We will still dance absent a horrific screw job.

I'm on mobile so I can't give you a like but consider this post as one

[SHOCKvalue]

Most painful thing to look back on is the huge chance they had in regulation to win on the last possession. Again, it was FVV who tried to put it all on his shoulders, and it didn't happen. FVV has meant the world to us, and he will be rembered in Shocker lore with the likes of few others in the WSU royalty, but he's just trying way, way, way too hard right now. That's fine when it's happening for him, but when it's not we almost always lose.

[shockerfan]

I don't think anyone is melting down. Can't expect to be all hunky dory after an emotional loss lol.

[Singeril]

Did he say that Valley was a P5 conference? I must have missed that in his post.

It depends on how you read his post.

[vancedave56]

Get back to playing for the love of the game.

[ShockerFever]

Most painful thing to look back on is the huge chance they had in regulation to win on the last possession. Again, it was FVV who tried to put it all on his shoulders, and it didn't happen. FVV has meant the world to us, and he will be rembered in Shocker lore with the likes of few others in the WSU royalty, but he's just trying way, way, way too hard right now. That's fine when it's happening for him, but when it's not we almost always lose.

Absolutely. This coaching staff and certain players have a whole lot of stubborn in them right now. What a waste.