If the bigs could make bunnies, he'd have about 40 more assists this year. ;-)
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Perhaps the experts are penalizing Fred for playing in the MVC? They've probably convinced themselves that any upper tier PG would look like an 1st Team All-American playing against that level of competition. While Fred has demonstrated success against the best college teams in the past, the voters may be saying we didn't get to see him play against upper level teams in the non-con and now he's dominating in a crap mid-major conference. Definitely not fair to Fred.
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But the "experts" have seen him for FOUR years now. Ridiculous slight that list is.FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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Originally posted by KC Shox View PostPerhaps the experts are penalizing Fred for playing in the MVC? They've probably convinced themselves that any upper tier PG would look like an 1st Team All-American playing against that level of competition. While Fred has demonstrated success against the best college teams in the past, the voters may be saying we didn't get to see him play against upper level teams in the non-con and now he's dominating in a crap mid-major conference. Definitely not fair to Fred.
Edit: Ok after looking him up he does have some impressive stats this season. 25 ppg and 8.8 assists per game, but 3.5 TOs. But you still can't really use the thought that Fred's in a weaker league and should be penalized.Last edited by ShockerPhi; February 4, 2016, 12:04 AM.
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Fred, Ron, and the rest of the Shocker players would put up similar numbers in any league they play in. They have proven that with there body of work over the years. Probably have scarier offensive numbers in the offensive minded biG 12. It's more of a bias toward players who are more offensive, not taking into account the complete aspects of the game, steals, rebounds, DEFENSE, floor burns, teamwork, being a leader and making the players around you look better. Fred should be on it, period.
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Originally posted by Shockers5150 View PostBarry is the only Valley coach that voted for Fred. Unreal. Just how much do the other Valley coaches hate WSU? They need to deal with it.
About time to go get that net in St Louis
The coaches don't vote."You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."
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Demetrius Jackson puts up 6 points in a loss to Miami.
Melo Trimble extremely impressive in a 3 assist 4 turnover performance against NEBRASKA
So far, in 3 days since announcing the list, those on the list have compiled an impressive 3-5 record.
Meanwhile (in case you missed it), one FVV drops a pts/ast double-double on everyone's head in a 20 point win.
You can't make this **** up.
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Originally posted by 1972Shocker View PostFred wasn't perfect against SIU (a couple of uncharacteristic FT misses and one bad bass). I would have to rate his game last night as merely magnificent."You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."
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Originally posted by Stickboy46 View PostThis is fun ...
http://www.sycamorepride.com/showthr...ousy-Nominated
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