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If the bigs could make bunnies, he'd have about 40 more assists this year. ;-)
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Perhaps the experts are penalizing Fred for playing in the MVC? They've probably convinced themselves that any upper tier PG would look like an 1st Team All-American playing against that level of competition. While Fred has demonstrated success against the best college teams in the past, the voters may be saying we didn't get to see him play against upper level teams in the non-con and now he's dominating in a crap mid-major conference. Definitely not fair to Fred.Comment
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But the "experts" have seen him for FOUR years now. Ridiculous slight that list is.FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4Comment
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Then how do you explain the guy from Oakland? A team that's 15-8 and in the Horizon league. I know you're just trying to find some kind of explanation here, but there is none. It's total nonsense.Originally posted by KC Shox View Post
Edit: Ok after looking him up he does have some impressive stats this season. 25 ppg and 8.8 assists per game, but 3.5 TOs. But you still can't really use the thought that Fred's in a weaker league and should be penalized.Last edited by ShockerPhi; February 4, 2016, 12:04 AM.Comment
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Fred, Ron, and the rest of the Shocker players would put up similar numbers in any league they play in. They have proven that with there body of work over the years. Probably have scarier offensive numbers in the offensive minded biG 12. It's more of a bias toward players who are more offensive, not taking into account the complete aspects of the game, steals, rebounds, DEFENSE, floor burns, teamwork, being a leader and making the players around you look better. Fred should be on it, period.Comment
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I wonder if Barry thinks Fred is a top 10 PgComment
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Barry is the only Valley coach that voted for Fred. Unreal. Just how much do the other Valley coaches hate WSU? They need to deal with it.
About time to go get that net in St LouisComment
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"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."Comment
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Demetrius Jackson puts up 6 points in a loss to Miami.
Melo Trimble extremely impressive in a 3 assist 4 turnover performance against NEBRASKA
So far, in 3 days since announcing the list, those on the list have compiled an impressive 3-5 record.
Meanwhile (in case you missed it), one FVV drops a pts/ast double-double on everyone's head in a 20 point win.
You can't make this **** up.Comment
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Fred wasn't perfect against SIU (a couple of uncharacteristic FT misses and one bad pass). I would have to rate his game last night as merely magnificent.Comment
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Which is only about a B game for him.Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."Comment
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This is fun ...
Put Brown/ Beane/ or Balentine on a team that has Wichita talent and they would put up better numbers than he does NIGHTLY on the offensive end. IMHOComment
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Shouldn't they be talking about those guards being put on Illinois State's stacked roster? 1-12 they're the most talented.Originally posted by Stickboy46 View PostComment
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Just a Dad who has a delusion his son is better at basketball than VanVleet.Comment
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