Nevada Game Thread

[SHOXAAC]

Are all errors in judgment an act of stupidity?

If so, call me "Stupid".

That split hair effort on his part was stupid...now to your request, I officially call you stupid. I hope that clears it up.
:-)

[proshox]

There are errors of judgment in which you should've really known better. Those may be classified as stupid

Players are taught never to pull up from wing on the break but to get to the center of the court to give them options. Players who are tracking the ballhandler as possible receivers are supposed to peel off from each other before they get to the free throw line. None of the above happened not to mention the shot blocker was allowed to sneak up on the play. Conner and the rest of the guys know better. Something they work on nearly every day in practice-3 on 1s, 2 on 1s, 3 on 2,s. Something that FVV never screws up. Coach and the rest of us have been spoiled

If you have open three with two non-guarded rebounders it is a bad shot. He didn't see the defender and nobody called it out. Not stupid, but terribly executed.

[SHOXAAC]

Now I partially know what Bill Clinton went through trying to explain the definition of "is."
Jeez...

[RoyalShock]

An article from a Nevada paper/site that blames biased officiating for the lopsided loss:

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/19801831-113/wichita-shocks-the-wolf-pack

Musselman, to be sure, wasn’t out-coached by Wichita’s Gregg Marshall. Musselman, in fact, wasn’t allowed to do any coaching at all because of all the fouls. He simply was scrambling all game long to put five competent players on the floor at the same time. And he didn’t always succeed. What this game showed was how small the Pack’s margin for error truly is this season. All it takes is one thing to go wrong, like biased officials on the road, for the wheels to completely fall off. It’s why, even when the Pack has beaten obviously limited teams this year, Musselman has been over-the-top positive and full of praise. We saw why on Tuesday.

So, basically, Nevada lost because their players couldn't play and their coach couldn't coach. All because of the officials. Oh, and that explains why we have a long home-court win streak.

[Eric]

An article from a Nevada paper/site that blames biased officiating for the lopsided loss:

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/19801831-113/wichita-shocks-the-wolf-pack

So, basically, Nevada lost because their players couldn't play and their coach couldn't coach. All because of the officials. Oh, and that explains why we have a long home-court win streak.

29 point prison-style thrashing blamed on officials. Suuuuuuurrre!

[ShockerFever]

An article from a Nevada paper/site that blames biased officiating for the lopsided loss:

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/19801831-113/wichita-shocks-the-wolf-pack

So, basically, Nevada lost because their players couldn't play and their coach couldn't coach. All because of the officials. Oh, and that explains why we have a long home-court win streak.

lol.

So what is this idiot's definition of a foul?

[ShockdaWorld]

This guy just made himself look like an extremely unprofessional homer.

[Eric]

So any more info on the dustup/non-dustup between the coaches after the game?

[ShockTalk]

This guy just made himself look like an extremely unprofessional homer.

This big time!! He did NO homework what so ever.

At 9:16 in the first half, WSU was up 26-14. Nevada 7 fouls, WSU 6 fouls. FT Nevada 1-6, WSU 4-7. They were already down 12 and foul disparity had nothing to do with it.

At 8:12 of the second half it was WSU 72-48. Player fouls (not including T on the bench) had increased to a difference of Nevada 23, WSU 15. but WSU had a net gain of only 5 made FT from the 9:16 of the first half. So, WSU double the lead from 12 to 24, but only 5 of those points came from the line on player fouls.

Over the last 8 minutes, where Nevada was already down 24 (game over), came their foul fest (including 2 player Ts) at a time when we were going into the double bonus (not smart, by the players or the coach). Over those last minutes, WSU went 22-30 (we were 22-32 before the last 8 minutes including the bench T).

I might be off a foul here and there, but it's obvious that disparity in fouls called was not Nevada's problem for the loss, even by 20+. The late fouls only increased the margin.

[Eric]

This big time!! He did NO homework what so ever.

At 9:16 in the first half, WSU was up 26-14. Nevada 7 fouls, WSU 6 fouls. FT Nevada 1-6, WSU 4-7. They were already down 12 and foul disparity had nothing to do with it.

At 8:12 of the second half it was WSU 72-48. Player fouls (not including T on the bench) had increased to a difference of Nevada 23, WSU 15. but WSU had a net gain of only 5 made FT from the 9:16 of the first half. So, WSU double the lead from 12 to 24, but only 5 of those points came from the line on player fouls.

Over the last 8 minutes, where Nevada was already down 24 (game over), came their foul fest (including 2 player Ts) at a time when we were going into the double bonus (not smart, by the players or the coach). Over those last minutes, WSU went 22-30 (we were 22-32 before the last 8 minutes including the bench T).

I might be off a foul here and there, but it's obvious that disparity in fouls called was not Nevada's problem for the loss, even by 20+. The late fouls only increased the margin.

This needs posted in the comment section of that tool's article.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Nevada players lost their composure and played silly and dumb.

How often do you see three technicals in a single game?

[Shox21]

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/1...-the-wolf-pack

"The officials turned the game into a circus. Wichita State doesn’t need that type of help to win at home. Then again, maybe that’s why they always win at home."

Am I reading this wrong or is there an insinuation there?

[Ricardo del Rio]

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/1...-the-wolf-pack

"The officials turned the game into a circus. Wichita State doesn’t need that type of help to win at home. Then again, maybe that’s why they always win at home."

Am I reading this wrong or is there an insinuation there?

Insinuation.

[im4wsu]

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/1...-the-wolf-pack

"The officials turned the game into a circus. Wichita State doesn’t need that type of help to win at home. Then again, maybe that’s why they always win at home."

Am I reading this wrong or is there an insinuation there?

Or it could be WSU does not usually faoul as much as opponents:

2014-15 season:

Home games: 224 PF 259 Opp PF 1.156% more Opp fouls
Other games: 341 PF 364 Opp PF 1.067% more Opp fouls.

[1972Shocker]

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/sports/1...-the-wolf-pack

"The officials turned the game into a circus. Wichita State doesn’t need that type of help to win at home. Then again, maybe that’s why they always win at home."

Am I reading this wrong or is there an insinuation there?

As @ShockTalk pointed out in clear and convincing fashion the game was already a blowout when the differential in fouls began to heavily skew in favor of the Shockers. So this comment is accurate in that the Shocks did not need any help to dominate Nevada.

However, the observation that the officials turned the game into a circus is very debatable. In fact, what really appeared to have happened was that the game did, in fact, turn into a circus but it appeared to me the culprit was the total loss of control and lack of composure by a badly beaten Nevada team who simply gave up. I suppose it is possible Nevada did not lose control but made a conscious decision to see what they could get away with since it was obvious they could not stay with the Shocks playing within the rules.