AP and Coaches Poll Watch Thread (2015-16 Edition)

[SHOCKvalue]

lolz. I'm not worried. Keep in mind this is a Creighton team that couldn't handle Loyola minus a starter.

CU is 7-3 against the 268th strongest SOS to date... but at least they won their annual Super Bowl against that other D1 school in their state who has never won a game in the NCAA tourney.

[Dave Stalwart]

CU is 7-3 against the 268th strongest SOS to date... but at least they won their annual Super Bowl against that other D1 school in their state who has never won a game in the NCAA tourney.

The game needs to be played every season to accurately determine which team is statistically less likely to win a game in the dance that year. I say statistically because neither team would in reality.

[DwShock]

The game needs to be played every season to accurately determine which team is statistically less likely to win a game in the dance that year. I say statistically because neither team would in reality.

Creighton loves beating the instate team. Probably more than when they beat WSU. I think once the big easy new wears off and people stop going to the cu games this one will still be near capacity. Playing Big Red is the go to game for those who actually don't like CU in town.

[WSUwatcher]

I'm sorry I did it, but I clicked on the BPI rankings in the link above and found WSU at #64, right below (ugh!) Creighton (ugh!) at #63.

Is it too late to squeeze in a semi-Big* East vs. MVC challenge game between WSU and the Jayboys? Maybe in KC?

Edit: For what it's worth, the latest Warren Nolan RPI rankings show WSU at 45th, the BJs 136th. Meanwhile, the mighty Huskers are 178th (so that would have been a bad loss had Creighton slipped up), actually a few notches behind Jake White and UN-Omaha at 162nd. (Apparently Jake's Mavericks are somewhat entertaining, too, averaging almost 88 points per game while giving up almost 87.)

*"semi-Big" as in, the Big East isn't as big as it used to be. These days it's more like the Mid-sized East, although of course I wouldn't dare call it Mid-Major.

Edit #2: One other interesting item that caught my eye when I was checking Nebraska's RPI rank: Warren Nolan has Maryland ranked 57th (!) right now. No doubt that will change as they play a Big 10/14 schedule, assuming they play more or less as expected, but I thought that was startlingly low (at least until I saw Maryland's schedule so far, which has been VERY modest -- looks like MT has picked up where Gary Williams left off). It also looks as though the Big 10/14 may not be as much help as one might expect in terms of RPI: at least right now, there are only three top 50 teams in the league. Who'd have thunk it?

[ShockBand]

(at least until I saw Maryland's schedule so far, which has been VERY modest -- looks like MT has picked up where Gary Williams left off)

Can we get Barry Hinson to call up MT and ask for a game?

[ShockerFever]

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

UConn? Really?

Come on. They smashed the living crap out of a very formidable Ohio State team at home.





lol.

[RoyalShock]

I really like this new AP voter's take.

[WuShock16]

I really like this new AP voter's take.

Yep. I seem to remember a good article about Mark Turgeon in the Kansas City Star back in 2006 when WSU had the great start. A comment was made by either the writer or Mark that had a power team had the four consecutive road wins that WSU had, that team would be #1 in the country...no questions asked. To the contrary, had Wichita State lost to Oral Roberts at home (which KU did early in the season), the Shockers wouldn't have been in the Top 100.

[gdb620]

I'm sorry I did it, but I clicked on the BPI rankings in the link above and found WSU at #64, right below (ugh!) Creighton (ugh!) at #63.

ESPN touts that its BPI accounts for a team missing top players. But they have WSU at #63 compared to #48 RPI. I suppose it makes a difference that ALA is overrated in the RPI (#23!) and Utah is underrated in the BPI (#67). Computer rankings - - -

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Yep. I seem to remember a good article about Mark Turgeon in the Kansas City Star back in 2006 when WSU had the great start. A comment was made by either the writer or Mark that had a power team had the four consecutive road wins that WSU had, that team would be #1 in the country...no questions asked. To the contrary, had Wichita State lost to Oral Roberts at home (which KU did early in the season), the Shockers wouldn't have been in the Top 100.

Isn't it nice to see a 4 loss Shocker team at the cusp of the top 25 in mid-December? This is especially true considering only 2 teams currently in the top 25 have 3 losses. None currently have 4. In fact, WSU is getting the most votes of any 4 loss team in the country.

Say what you might about polls from the Turgeon era, but right now, WSU seems to be getting quite a bit of respect.

[_kai_]

WSU seems to be getting quite a bit of respect.

A resounding yes to this. It's just a few dweebs, actually just two that I know of, ******* and Gottlieb who have even remotely come close to saying anything bad about WSU's start. Seth Davis even called Gottlieb out on it earlier, and the article that CJ from BleacherReport low key calls out I'm assuming ******* in his article in the first paragraph about how idiotic it was for anyone to even think WSU was immediately a bubble team.

[ShockBand]

A resounding yes to this. It's just a few dweebs, actually just two that I know of, ******* and Gottlieb who have even remotely come close to saying anything bad about WSU's start. Seth Davis even called Gottlieb out on it earlier, and the article that CJ from BleacherReport low key calls out I'm assuming ******* in his article in the first paragraph about how idiotic it was for anyone to even think WSU was immediately a bubble team.

To be timely, I so want to do this to Goatlube. Who's up for donning the Vader garb?

[HockeyShock]

To be timely, I so want to do this to Goatlube. Who's up for donning the Vader garb?

I've said this for years: just ignore him. Don't listen to his show, don't retweet anything from his account, don't contribute to his bottom line at all. The bottom line is that he sucks. He's a horrible analyst and commentator that needs cheap heat to stay relevant. He was a point guard who couldn't shoot, and a student athlete at the University of Notre Dame that was so bad at not getting caught that he was actually expelled for his conduct.

Taken together, the only reason ... the only reason I would have to listen to a single word he has to say on sports is because he is employed by a major media company. Given how oversaturated the sports media market is, that reason reduces to zero.

[ShockBand]

I've said this for years: just ignore him. Don't listen to his show, don't retweet anything from his account, don't contribute to his bottom line at all. The bottom line is that he sucks. He's a horrible analyst and commentator that needs cheap heat to stay relevant. He was a point guard who couldn't shoot, and a student athlete at the University of Notre Dame that was so bad at not getting caught that he was actually expelled for his conduct.

Taken together, the only reason ... the only reason I would have to listen to a single word he has to say on sports is because he is employed by a major media company. Given how oversaturated the sports media market is, that reason reduces to zero.

I still want to force choke him, X-man style.

[DUShock]

I've said this for years: just ignore him. Don't listen to his show, don't retweet anything from his account, don't contribute to his bottom line at all. The bottom line is that he sucks. He's a horrible analyst and commentator that needs cheap heat to stay relevant. He was a point guard who couldn't shoot, and a student athlete at the University of Notre Dame that was so bad at not getting caught that he was actually expelled for his conduct.

Taken together, the only reason ... the only reason I would have to listen to a single word he has to say on sports is because he is employed by a major media company. Given how oversaturated the sports media market is, that reason reduces to zero.

THIS