Any Presale for Utah @ Intrust Bank Arena

[wusphlash]

Wow, does everyone just need something to complain about to make them feel better? The allocation method sucks, the fees are too much, season ticket holders are getting screwed, no map to pick my seat on the site, this game should be at Koch...Holy crap, some people are just never happy!! Either you are buying tickets or you aren't, quit complaining about the process. $20 (with the fees) is less than you would pay to watch a game at Koch Arena

I have to be in Kansas City for an exam until 1:00 on the day of this game. Should I be pissed off at ESPN for scheduling the game at 2:00?? The bastards are making me miss the game. How dare them?!?!

One of the basics of Shockernet is that if you don't complain about something every once in awhile you are probably dead.

[Aargh]

"Convenience fees" are not an indication of free market economics. Where is the choice and competition? There is none. Captive audience, which is the opposite of capitalism.

The free market would be on display if all tickets for the event were put out on a bid system, or something similar.

Convenience fees??? I'll have to think about how they fit into an economic model.

I think they are some sort of a byproduct of demand gouged into a capitalistic system where one supplier holds a monopoly.

I could be wrong.

Select-A-Seat's competition is TicketMaster. StubHub could easily sell original tickets as well as resale tickets. SMG could do their own internet sales.

You could certainly open up a website and make a deal with SMG to market their tickets. All you'd have to do to succeed is offer lower convenience fees than Select-A-Seat, beat the kickback Select-A-Seat is paying SMG, and still produce a profit. Actually, you wouldn't have to have lower convenience fees. All you'd have to do is give SMG a bigger cut than they're getting from Select-A-Seat.

There is no competition because no business has found a way to be profitable with the money they're left with out of the convenience fees. Select-A-Seat pays SMG enough money that SMG can't profit from doing their own sales. Select-A-Seat is obviously the most efficient business in their field, so they have captured the market - not by force, but by efficiency and economics.

If you think there was never any bidding process for off-site sales, then you are assuming that an arena management company with multiple sites just goes to Select-A-Seat and says, "How would you guys like to sell our tickets. Here they are. Thanks, guys". That's not how it works. SMG hammered out a deal with Select-A-Seat and Select-A-Seat made a deal that was the most profitable to SMG, but Select-A-Seat's bargaining chip was that they get all the ticket sales.

The competition and the bidding process occurred before IBA was even built. The contracts probably run for one or more years and are renegotiated (and others allowed to compete) whenever any current contract expires.

Just because Select-A-Seat has been able to crush their competition doesn't mean that capitalism and free market forces are not occurring. In fact, those forces favor businesses that are able to crush their competition.

[ShockerFever]

"Convenience fees" are not an indication of free market economics. Where is the choice and competition? There is none. Captive audience, which is the opposite of capitalism.

The free market would be on display if all tickets for the event were put out on a bid system, or something similar.

But you do have the option to avoid them. It may not be possible or practical without some proper planning for some, but it's not technically "forced".

[boltforge]

Purchases are open for the Intrust Email code that they sent out to people who went last year. Can I just drive there and order at Intrust to save the $6 fee per ticket? It says: "Presale tickets are ONLY available online" though.

[ArtVandalay]

Purchases are open for the Intrust Email code that they sent out to people who went last year. Can I just drive there and order at Intrust to save the $6 fee per ticket? It says: "Presale tickets are ONLY available online" though.

Under normal IBA pre-sales, you can only use the pre-sale code online. For the Shocker SASO pre-sales, they do allow in person use of the pre-sale code. If you have the IBA pre-sale and not a WSU SASO pre-sale code, I believe you are stuck going online.

[Stickboy46]

I don't know if they held back tickets for public sale tomorrow, but

$27 - Scale 5 Lower bowl appears sold out - Selecting 1 returns that it cant be found
$22 - Scale 6 Upper Bowl is only singles left (selecting 2 returns not found)

So basically only 14 dollar Scale 7 Upper Bowl left.

[pogo]

No I picked and payed for my seats at the arena pre sale and was not subject to the convenience fee.

[ArtVandalay]

I couldn't image them holding back good lower bowl seats for non-season ticket holders just to have some for the public on sale Saturday. I'd be willing to be the whole lower bowl is sold out, as well as the side court upper bowl, leaving just the behind the basket sections of the upper bowl.

[ArtVandalay]

And there are now 75 tickets for sale on vividseats.com for the game.

[WuDrWu]

And there are now 75 tickets for sale on vividseats.com for the game.

I hope to hell it's all the same moron and he gets smoked trying to sell 206 tickets for $67

[Stickboy46]

4,500 tickets remain per Paul Suellentrop. I wonder if that is before or after today's sales. That means over 10k sold already.

[goshox_dm]

Anybody know today's presale code? A guy can hope...

[ShockBaller]

The public code that Intrust sent out is tombush

[goshox_dm]

Anybody know today's presale code? A guy can hope...

Nevermind :yahoo:

[Play Angry]

Seems almost impossible that Sections 213-218 in the Upper Bowl sold out of all pairs this morning and afternoon. There were still a lot of lower bowl seats left very early this morning.

If they really are sold out in those sections, some people bought ridiculously large blocks.