Any Presale for Utah @ Intrust Bank Arena

[I_Vector_Wu]

I thought it was Ole Southern Mississippi State that we played a few years ago?

[ShockerFever]

I rarely go to arena events, mostly because there are very few things I would pay those prices to go see. And when I do, they are usually the type that I can walk up and purchase tickets at the time of the event.

We're not talking about taxes and specific fees here, like with hotels and airlines. No, these are generic fees they are charging arbitrarily (see my previous post for the logic) to pay for other areas of arena management.

From a KWCH article about this very thing:



Guess what? All those things are required when you walk up a buy a ticket with a credit card. Yet only those buying from home are paying for it. I would pay a few dollars per ticket for the convenience. But not $9. Regular retail businesses can't get away by charging extra to process a credit card. They factor that into the cost of doing business and price their products accordingly. Why can't event ticketing do the same thing?

Do you really think event ticketing is the only business model that tries to maximize profit? Do you not think other businesses and most of the things you pay for have built-in markups included in the price of the merchandise? So because the costs are divided up for you to see you have a problem with it? Again, I'll ask you if they were included in the price of the ticket would you have a problem with it? There's not many places out there that actually give you the option to cancel out that mark up if you choose to. Just because it's not convenient enough for you seems like a silly reason to turn down a WSU game. If you don't attend things like this very often, shouldn't that be more of a reason to bite the bullet? Especially since we're talking about a difference of $4 in what you're willing to pay for convenience.

[ShockerFever]

I assume you also don't attend Royal games for this very reason.

[Play Angry]

Supply and demand.

For this game, any intended statement to be made by skipping the event will go completely unnoticed since it will have no problem selling out. Same thing with canceling season tickets - there is a long line of waiters, and unless you are one of the hundred or so top SASO ballers, our donation isn't vital to much of anything. Depressing but true.

As mentioined earlier, it is the price of success. I am fine with it.

[Aargh]

There are a lot of things that come along with a successful program. Higher ticket prices is just one. I'm confident Missouri State doesn't have problems like this. Want to be more like Missouri State? I don't know what KU does when they play a "home" game in KC. They either do NOTHING for season ticket holders, or they likely have the same complaints we are seeing here.

The tickets that are already for sale at marked up prices? Who says those were purchased by brokers? If you think for a minute that there are no WSU season ticket holders who would exploit the system, buy 50 extra tickets, and scalp them for twice what they paid, then perhaps you may be a bit naive.

The markup that SelectASeat puts on the tickets? That's just capitalism and free market forces at work. That's the way the economic system in the USA works. People charge the maximum they possibly can in order to boost their profits. It's just much more pleasant to be on the "getting paid maximum profits" side of the equation than to be on the "getting gouged to the maximum " side of the equation.

[ShockdaWorld]

I have no code. Therefore, I will be online Friday night with my wife trying to decide what seats are worth sitting in and which seats make it more logical to sit at home and watch it on the flat screen. If we see that there are any seats available that will make it worthwhile to be there (old eyes and such), I will be online Saturday morning as soon as the tickets go on sale to the general public, attempting to purchase said tickets. I am not a fan of the hidden fees, specially as they seem to be charging on a sliding scale. But, as a person who has thus far been unable to make enough donations and purchase season tickets, I will take the fees with a grain of salt in order to have my best possible chance of seeing this team as many times as possible

Edit: I know the fees are just a way to add their profits, and that that's what capitalism is all about, but as someone stated before, I just wish they would show it as part of the ticket price rather than adding it in later.

[im4wsu]

I have no code. Therefore, I will be online Friday night with my wife trying to decide what seats are worth sitting in and which seats make it more logical to sit at home and watch it on the flat screen. If we see that there are any seats available that will make it worthwhile to be there (old eyes and such), I will be online Saturday morning as soon as the tickets go on sale to the general public, attempting to purchase said tickets. I am not a fan of the hidden fees, specially as they seem to be charging on a sliding scale. But, as a person who has thus far been unable to make enough donations and purchase season tickets, I will take the fees with a grain of salt in order to have my best possible chance of seeing this team as many times as possible

Edit: I know the fees are just a way to add their profits, and that that's what capitalism is all about, but as someone stated before, I just wish they would show it as part of the ticket price rather than adding it in later.

The $102 endzone floor ticket had $14.56 added to it. Not complaining (at least externally), just stating fact.

[ArtVandalay]

I have no code. Therefore, I will be online Friday night with my wife trying to decide what seats are worth sitting in and which seats make it more logical to sit at home and watch it on the flat screen. If we see that there are any seats available that will make it worthwhile to be there (old eyes and such), I will be online Saturday morning as soon as the tickets go on sale to the general public, attempting to purchase said tickets. I am not a fan of the hidden fees, specially as they seem to be charging on a sliding scale. But, as a person who has thus far been unable to make enough donations and purchase season tickets, I will take the fees with a grain of salt in order to have my best possible chance of seeing this team as many times as possible

Edit: I know the fees are just a way to add their profits, and that that's what capitalism is all about, but as someone stated before, I just wish they would show it as part of the ticket price rather than adding it in later.

As mentioned before, Intrust Bank Arena sent out a pre-sale code to everyone on their mailing list today. If you go sign up, they will usually send that pre-sale code out again tomorrow before it starts. The last group of SASO donors get to use their code at 10am, and then the Intrust Bank Arena open to the public pre-sale code starts working at noon. What's even more ridiculous, is that the Intrust Bank Arena general pre-sale code they sent out to everyone this morning follows the same super easy to guess codes that were used Tuesday, Wednesday, and Today. Tuesday and Wednesday's pre-sale codes still work today, meaning IBA basically just gave everyone on their mailing list all the pre-sale codes Thursday at 8am.

[ShockBand]

Wow, does everyone just need something to complain about to make them feel better?

It's the American way. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of bitching and moaning.

[RoyalShock]

Wow, does everyone just need something to complain about to make them feel better?

Yep. Royals don't play until this evening.

[SHOCKvalue]

So because the costs are divided up for you to see you have a problem with it?

The problem is it is not actually a cost, nor additional profit for the arena; it is revenue stream for a pointless middleman. No value added. It is akin to going to a new car dealer to buy a $30K vehicle, and there is a $10K surcharge added on for the act of handing over the keys.

[SHOCKvalue]

Same thing with canceling season tickets - there is a long line of waiters, and unless you are one of the hundred or so top SASO ballers, our donation isn't vital to much of anything. Depressing but true.

^This can actually be the root cause of a number of issues, as I'm sure you know. When a business has more demand for their product than they will ever have capacity to produce, eventually stakeholders lose incentive to put their best foot forward for the customer. Not in reference to Marshall, his staff, or his team, but moreso the ancillaries surrounding the athletic department.

[SHOCKvalue]

That's just capitalism and free market forces at work.

"Convenience fees" are not an indication of free market economics. Where is the choice and competition? There is none. Captive audience, which is the opposite of capitalism.

The free market would be on display if all tickets for the event were put out on a bid system, or something similar.

[Play Angry]

^This can actually be the root cause of a number of issues, as I'm sure you know. When a business has more demand for their product than they will ever have capacity to produce, eventually stakeholders lose incentive to put their best foot forward for the customer. Not in reference to Marshall, his staff, or his team, but moreso the ancillaries surrounding the athletic department.

Good point.

[MoValley John]

"Convenience fees" are not an indication of free market economics. Where is the choice and competition? There is none. Captive audience, which is the opposite of capitalism.

The free market would be on display if all tickets for the event were put out on a bid system, or something similar.

Convenience fees??? I'll have to think about how they fit into an economic model.

I think they are some sort of a byproduct of demand gouged into a capitalistic system where one supplier holds a monopoly.

I could be wrong.