Offseason Thread: 2015 Edition

[kstarheel]

With everyone back, CF will flourish mightily 2nd semester next season. That will be fun to watch.

[Shock Top]

From what heard, during practice squad games this semester,he was unguardable.

He'll still have to add a little bulk and work on his defensive game some. That said, he is a hard worker and I believe he will be a Shocker success.

[wufan]

CF had two concerns at KU:

1. Size. Still a concern at the 2 (though he is surprisingly athletic).

2. For the first time in his life he didn't shoot the ball well. I don't expect that to continue, but you never know. Not shooting well relegates him to a decent back-up, but he's still good.

As a side note, where did the "poor defense" grumblings come from?

[Shock Top]

CF had two concerns at KU:

1. Size. Still a concern at the 2 (though he is surprisingly athletic).

2. For the first time in his life he didn't shoot the ball well. I don't expect that to continue, but you never know.

Third concern:

3) He was at KU

He's already adressed one of them ;)

[ShoxRoxMySox]

After reading some posts on here from people that know much more about CF than I do, I'm honestly more excited and optimistic than ever. If we put a 6-8 PF (not saying he would start over EW) and if BW comes on strong his senior year, that size would enable us to play Fred CF and Ron at the same time, in my opinion. Can you imagine Fred's assists with that lineup?

The sheer talent and combinations we could put on the court next year is just stupid. Can't freaking wait.

[wufan]

As I start to look at the roster, if CF can be the top 40 recruit he was out of high school during his third college season, then a starting line-up of FVV, CF, RB, EW, and SM seems likely. I'm not a fan of that. I want CF off the bench backing up Ron and Fred so that they only have to go 30 mpg. I want Evan and Zach at the three. I want Kelly and McDuffie at the 4 and Shaq and BWam at the 5 with either an improved Nurger or Hamilton acting as the 5th forward/center. Of course for all of that to happen, the two 6-9 freshman (McDuffie and Hamilton) have to play big and play angry.

[CBB_Fan]

Yes. IMO he's the PG of the future. I watched him in high school and he is absolutely not a spot up shooter. Bill Self misused him. At North he flourished with the ball in his hands. He could create his own shot and actually surprised me how well he distributed the ball even to less heralded teammates.

This is completely true. If you never watched him in high school, watch a highlights video. The ball is always in his hands. He was not sitting in a corner, he mostly shot of screens or off what he could create off the dribble. He seemed incredibly uncomfortable at KU, as Bill Self would pull him on the spot for shooting his normal pull-ups and he was forced into the off-ball role that he didn't play in HS.

Combine very little MPG and a completely new role, and he looked lost. His 3PT% went straight to the toilet until Bill Self gave him a little more room to work out of desperation in the tournament. He is a PG, or a least a lead guard that works best as the primary ball carrier even if he has more SG skills than PG ones. Oh, and he was probably the best defender KU had in the backcourt in the tournament even if he needed a lot more time in the weight room.

Marshall's system is better for a guy like CF. Self likes very specific things from his guards, and CF didn't fit the mold. He was neither a sit-in-the-corner-and-only-shoot-3s guard (the Teahan) or a go-crazy-attacking-the-paint-and-hopefully-get-more-assists-than-TOs guard (the Taylor), and those are really the only archetypes I've seen Self use. Marshall lets his guys create a little more, is okay with the pull-up jumper if a guy is good at it (and CF is), and adapts his system to his guards strengths more.

[pinstripers]

I'm not sure how Shaq with his 14 mpg and his 4 pf per game fits in at the starting center.

[SHOXAAC]

I'm not sure how Shaq with his 14 mpg and his 4 pf per game fits in at the starting center.

Who does then?

[1979Shocker]

No one will be talking about their future with the team until Marshall announces that he is staying. If I was a player that didn't see the court in post season, I would be concerned about my scholarship being renewed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marshall's staff looking in on elite level centers and JUCO PGs.

No news is good news.

[Dave Stalwart]

Who does then?

I think the point is that it's a major concern and Shaq may be the first in line, but that doesn't exactly instill confidence based on 14 min/4pts

Another way I look at it is... No one, including him :)

[Shock Top]

I think the point is that it's a major concern and Shaq may be the first in line, but that doesn't exactly instill confidence based on 14 min/4pts

Another way I look at it is... No one, including him :)

I think we may see Big Bush starting games, much like he was starting in the second half of ones, in order to conserve fouls on the other bigs. Also, because he was coming on at the end of the year.

[_kai_]

After reading some posts on here from people that know much more about CF than I do, I'm honestly more excited and optimistic than ever. If we put a 6-8 PF (not saying he would start over EW) and if BW comes on strong his senior year, that size would enable us to play Fred CF and Ron at the same time, in my opinion. Can you imagine Fred's assists with that lineup?

The sheer talent and combinations we could put on the court next year is just stupid. Can't freaking wait.

I like to imagine an offensive juggernaut with speed line up where we play

5) Morris
4) Brown
3) Baker
2) Frankamp
1) Van Vleet

[Dave Stalwart]

I like to imagine an offensive juggernaut with speed line up where we play

5) Morris
4) Brown
3) Baker
2) Frankamp
1) Van Vleet

I like that lineup. It wil be very "offensive" to the opposing team.

[shelback]

If Shaq improves like most big guys in Marshall's system he will a very nice player next year...