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Originally posted by Anthroshock
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40" vertical for Cle -
34" Standing Vertical
11.15 Lane Agility Drill (Best so far)Comment
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Actually Harden has been on record that he didn't want out, he just wanted to be paid like a starter (reasonable given that he had starter productivity as a 6th man), but OKC wouldn't pay him.Originally posted by Awesome Sauce Malone View Post"Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling playersComment
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Seth Davis saying that Cle SHOULD be a Lottery pickComment
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also said he could be the biggest steal of the draft.Originally posted by Stickboy46 View PostComment
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plays well in big games.Comment
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I would love to see him go to Chicago. Thibodeau is about as close as the NBA has to a coach like Marshall. The Bulls had a pretty good season with harldy any great NBA talent. That is one team that actually plays hard nose defense and gives extra effort every night, which is a reflection of a great coach.Comment
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stats from the combine:
Cle McBuckets Lane Agility 11.15 11.1 Shuttle Run 2.96 3.15 3/4 Sprint 3.18 3.29 Stand Vertical 34 28.5 Max Vertical 40 36.5 "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
"We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".
A physician called into a radio show and said:
"That's the definition of a stool sample."Comment
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Actually those are better numbers than I would have expected for McBuckets.Originally posted by im4wsu View PostComment
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Same here. Well maybe the jumping is in line with expectations, but the speed skills are a surprise.Originally posted by 1972Shocker View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Everyone measures shorter.Originally posted by gmoney View Post
He's never been an isolation player.
Is 47% from 3 (unguarded I assume) really that bad?, and isn't his actual game percentage for the last 2 years of greater weight?
He's still going 1st round."Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
-John WoodenComment
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Cle's measureables were really good at the combine, which lots of analysts took notice of in a very positive way and 6'7" is no problem for a small forward, which is always where he was going to project in the NBA.Originally posted by gmoney View Post
As for the shooting, if NBA teams decide to prioritize shooting numbers at the combine on a small sample size over two season's worth game film, they are idiots. Shooting ability is one of the least important things to determine at the combine because it is one of the easiest to establish from game film.
That shooting performance obviously won't help Cle if teams already had concerns about his shooting ability, but it also isn't nearly a big enough sample to concern teams if they believed in his shooting ability.
In other words, the shooting drills were a lost opportunity to improve his stock, but not likely a harm to it. Measurements like vertical leap and sprinting were actively helpful to his stock. I can't see on balance how you put him in the loser category, even if you don't think he helped himself enough to be considered a winner."Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling playersComment
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