K State Series?

[jpshocker]

It would be nice to get a series started with Mizzou as well.

[SHOCKvalue]

[tangent]

The fact that soccer requires a solid cardio profile doesn't change the reality that it is a god-awful bore to take in as a spectator. The only reason it has grown in this country is due to euro-yuppie suburban helicopter parents. It allows their kids to take part in a "sport" that's only a sliver away from co-ed church league kickball where everyone gets a participation ribbon and a sticker.

It has proliferated around the globe not so much due to its attractiveness as a team competition, but because it is possibly the cheapest sport man has ever invented. Most of the rest of the world doesn't have the disposal income to finance football or baseball, so rolling a bunch of used disposable diapers into a ball bound with duct tape is the best way for third world countries to competitive gauge themselves outside of killing each other. Ironically, they are even able to do that as soccer spectators, so it is really is a perfect, self-contained sport ecosystem for sheetholes around the globe.

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[Aargh]

How about K-State, Mizzouri, Wichita State and Creighton at the CBE. That would be wild.

I'd really want to see what CU has after this year - losing little McD, Grandpa Gibbs, and Wragge is a Sr. CU could be teetering on the brink of the abyss. Word is their recruiting is improving, but they're losing McD, Gibbs, Wragge, and Manigat after this year.

CU may not be a top-100 rpi team next year.

[JJClamdip]

You know I have changed my mind, I think that an outdoor game is a great idea but instead of having it in that dump where soccer team plays why not have it at a more manly real sporting venue like the Kansas Motor Speedway!

We really need to get MoValley Johns thoughts on this he is the foremost expert on Soccer in the country and played with Kyle Rote Jr.

[martymoose]

Let them. There would be 10,000 really cheap tickets and Shox get paid! We would still outnumber thier fans 2-1.

If they divided the tickets in half and the WSU Athletic Dept. gave first chance to season ticket holders, it would be an even draw.

I know we don't want to accept it, but there are a lot more KSU fans out there than WSU fans, especially in the KC area. It wouldn't be a stretch to say we could be out numbered 2 - 1 or worse. There were a total of 7,600 WSU, DePaul, BYU and Texas fans at the Sprint Center for the CBE Classic the first night and about 1,000 more for the second night. KSU's attendance their last 2 events at the Sprint Center was 16,300 and 18,600...Not to mention they've sold out Intrust Bank Arena in our own backyard and we haven't.

[AndShock]

I know we don't want to accept it, but there are a lot more KSU fans out there than WSU fans, especially in the KC area. It wouldn't be a stretch to say we could be out numbered 2 - 1 or worse. There were a total of 7,600 WSU, DePaul, BYU and Texas fans at the Sprint Center for the CBE Classic the first night and about 1,000 more for the second night. KSU's attendance their last 2 events at the Sprint Center was 16,300 and 18,600...Not to mention they've sold out Intrust Bank Arena in our own backyard and we haven't.

Then we can just hold a neutral court game at Bramlage. We'd probably outnumber them there.

[WSUwatcher]

I know we don't want to accept it, but there are a lot more KSU fans out there than WSU fans, especially in the KC area. It wouldn't be a stretch to say we could be out numbered 2 - 1 or worse. There were a total of 7,600 WSU, DePaul, BYU and Texas fans at the Sprint Center for the CBE Classic the first night and about 1,000 more for the second night. KSU's attendance their last 2 events at the Sprint Center was 16,300 and 18,600...Not to mention they've sold out Intrust Bank Arena in our own backyard and we haven't.

Okay, marty, and so what -- who are the best road warriors in college basketball these days? The Shocks don't care who's cheering against them.

[jocoshock]

I know we don't want to accept it, but there are a lot more KSU fans out there than WSU fans, especially in the KC area. It wouldn't be a stretch to say we could be out numbered 2 - 1 or worse. There were a total of 7,600 WSU, DePaul, BYU and Texas fans at the Sprint Center for the CBE Classic the first night and about 1,000 more for the second night. KSU's attendance their last 2 events at the Sprint Center was 16,300 and 18,600...Not to mention they've sold out Intrust Bank Arena in our own backyard and we haven't.

And 90% of those fans this year were Shocker fans showing up on a Monday and Tuesday evening. If the game were scheduled on weekend, I believe we could put 7-8,000 fans in the Sprint Center. More than enough to represent loud and proud...

[jpshocker]

Weber was just interviewed on 810 and was asked about the home-and-home with Wichita State and the article from yesterday. I find it interesting that he points out that they considered it for this year but were concerned about their player loss going into this year. He also alludes to this in the article. It would seem that he acknowledges the difficulty in playing the Shox and one of his issues is not wanting to overload their non-conference schedule. At least he seems to be showing our program respect as opposed to simply stating "we having nothing to gain from it".

[Signman]

I know we don't want to accept it, but there are a lot more KSU fans out there than WSU fans, especially in the KC area. It wouldn't be a stretch to say we could be out numbered 2 - 1 or worse. There were a total of 7,600 WSU, DePaul, BYU and Texas fans at the Sprint Center for the CBE Classic the first night and about 1,000 more for the second night. KSU's attendance their last 2 events at the Sprint Center was 16,300 and 18,600...Not to mention they've sold out Intrust Bank Arena in our own backyard and we haven't.

Don't know if your attendance numbers are right or not. However, You failed to mention who the other teams were the year K-State was there. How many of those in attendance were actually there to see Duke, Gonzaga or Marquette. I think had the Shockers played Duke & Gonzaga we might have drawn more too.

[shox1989]

7,000 Shocker fans showed up in Kansas City on a week night to watch the Shockers play BYU (about 6,000 showed up the night before to watch the Shocks play an awful DePaul team). I don't think it wouldn't be that hard to get 10,000 Shocker fans to show up on a weekend to see the Shockers play K-state (or Missouri, or Ku).

[wsushox1]

I know we don't want to accept it, but there are a lot more KSU fans out there than WSU fans, especially in the KC area. It wouldn't be a stretch to say we could be out numbered 2 - 1 or worse. There were a total of 7,600 WSU, DePaul, BYU and Texas fans at the Sprint Center for the CBE Classic the first night and about 1,000 more for the second night. KSU's attendance their last 2 events at the Sprint Center was 16,300 and 18,600...Not to mention they've sold out Intrust Bank Arena in our own backyard and we haven't.

Agreed. People love to hate on KSU's lack of support for basketball but you can be damn sure they will show up for a KSU-WSU series.

[martymoose]

Then we can just hold a neutral court game at Bramlage. We'd probably outnumber them there.

Agreed, I've been to WSU games @KSU and we nearly out numbered their fans...it's just too bad we didn't win. :(

Okay, marty, and so what -- who are the best road warriors in college basketball these days? The Shocks don't care who's cheering against them.

Well, I was responding to people saying we were going to out number KSU fans.. That's "so what". LOL Has absolutely nothing to do with being road warriors or whatever else.

And 90% of those fans this year were Shocker fans showing up on a Monday and Tuesday evening. If the game were scheduled on weekend, I believe we could put 7-8,000 fans in the Sprint Center. More than enough to represent loud and proud...

I completely agree, 90% of 7,000 were Shocker fans...and I'm sure we'll be plenty loud. But doesn't change the fact that I was saying we'll be out numbered.

Don't know if your attendance numbers are right or not. However, You failed to mention who the other teams were the year K-State was there. How many of those in attendance were actually there to see Duke, Gonzaga or Marquette. I think had the Shockers played Duke & Gonzaga we might have drawn more too.

Don't worry, the numbers are right. You can check the box scores like I did if you don't believe me. I didn't fail to mention anything...If WSU walks in as the #6 team in the nation we'll be ranked plenty high to provide the interest and motivation for KSU fans to show up like they always do at the Sprint Center.

[jocoshock]

Agreed, I've been to WSU games @KSU and we nearly out numbered their fans...it's just too bad we didn't win. :(



Well, I was responding to people saying we were going to out number KSU fans.. That's "so what". LOL Has absolutely nothing to do with being road warriors or whatever else.



I completely agree, 90% of 7,000 were Shocker fans...and I'm sure we'll be plenty loud. But doesn't change the fact that I was saying we'll be out numbered.



Don't worry, the numbers are right. You can check the box scores like I did if you don't believe me. I didn't fail to mention anything...If WSU walks in as the #6 team in the nation we'll be ranked plenty high to provide the interest and motivation for KSU fans to show up like they always do at the Sprint Center.

We've been outnumbered all of our lives. Apparently,that still constitutes unfair odds in our favor, where the other schools in the state are concerned... :-)