Need Better coaching management with players with fouls

[shockingwheat]

I actually think Marshall sitting foul trouble guys in this instance is more about fostering mental and performance toughness from the bench. That he wanted to press Wiggins, Coleby, Wessel to grow and be able to handle this situation... so that they would be better prepared in the future. Think about the crunch time minutes FVV logged last year during the Final Four run despite having a fantastic senior point guard. There was a plan then that has allowed FVV to be ready for this year.

[DUShock]

I actually think Marshall sitting foul trouble guys in this instance is more about fostering mental and performance toughness from the bench. That he wanted to press Wiggins, Coleby, Wessel to grow and be able to handle this situation... so that they would be better prepared in the future. Think about the crunch time minutes FVV logged last year during the Final Four run despite having a fantastic senior point guard. There was a plan then that has allowed FVV to be ready for this year.

Agree.

I love your SN handle, it goes back to our roots!

[Shox21]

Cle and the gang were handling it. Why risk Ron. Let him rest that ankle as much as possible. I really think that if Alabama would have pulled out ahead by 5 or 6 Marshall would have put him back in. I'm not saying Ron is indispensable but I think even the team members would say we are better with him on the floor. We do really well without him, but -- well, you know what we do with him. In Marshall we believe. Let him coach.

[Slalomshocker]

The game was close, but since we were never down by more than 3 at any point in the game there was no need to get any of those guys back in the game and risk them having to sit for even longer should they pick up their 3rd rather quickly. Which with the game I was watching.....was very l likely since a lot of the whistles were anticipated whistles and not what actually happened on the court. The game was on its way to a blow out until the fouls set in. I understand everyone wants to see us put someone away, but if you check the right hand column of the W-L......it doesn't say by how many points....and at this time still reads 0.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

If it was an ankle issue, fine.

However, my opinion is that coaches in general are crazy for resting star players so much with 3 fouls. Sooooo many good quality minutes don't get played because coaches are overly cautious about fouling out, IMO.

[im4wsu]

Marshall makes 1.4 million or so more bones than I do to make those decisions. No complaint here at the result.

Then you're way overpaid.

[pie n eye]

Just my opinion but this thread and it's title are dumb.

[shock]

Who is this Ron Baker you speak of?

Bill Howard

[SHOXAAC]

Bill Howard

Has Ron Howard played yet?

[newshock1234]

The guy has been to a final 4, so im gonna trust HCGM judgement

[RoyalShock]

If it was an ankle issue, fine.

However, my opinion is that coaches in general are crazy for resting star players so much with 3 fouls. Sooooo many good quality minutes don't get played because coaches are overly cautious about fouling out, IMO.

I agree with this.

At the time I was fairly sure the extended break was due to his ankle, particularly when the under 12 timeout came and went with Ron still on the bench.

Even Gaudio was talking about his philosophy of not always pulling players with two fouls in the 1st half or three early in the 2nd. Ultimately, it depends on the situation.

Just using last night as an example (forget about Ron's ankle, for this argument's sake), we clearly can't afford to have our two primary point guards plus our most dynamic player on the bench for so long. It's worth the risk, IMO, to keep one of your two guards on the floor in an attempt to protect the lead going into halftime.

Considering Ron's ankle again, it means that player would have to have been Fred. If Fred does pick up his 3rd, now you're looking at having to play a hobbled Ron for an extended stretch. Not a good thing.

Marshall has his philosophy and that's fine. It's the generally accepted one among coaches, too. But it's not 100% accepted and is a legitimate, debatable topic.

[jocoshock]

I agree with everything that everyone has said on this thread...

[GOSHOX1]

I agree with everything that everyone has said on this thread...

Doc Johnsons right about Howard Johnson being right! Revren

[OTR Shockfan]

I and the crew with me were fine with the way HCGM handled the substitutions. I was the one who said I wanted a comfortable lead and our bench to get playing time . well I got more or less 1/2 of it . the lead might not of been as comfortable as I wanted , but the bench got their minutes. On the whole we were happy sayin our bench pretty much played even up ball with Bama's starters,, you can't be unhappy about bein able to say that.

[OTR Shockfan]

And also,, we never really felt like the game was in jeopardy of bein lost, even with Cle, Ron, and FVV on the bench. how many other D1 teams could put 3 starters on the bench and still feel confident about the outcome against Bama this yr ??