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  • I think that is our loss that VCU lost twice this week. We would be better off in the long term if they win.

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    • interesting stuff


      "So Feinstein doesn't deserve a Poll Attack.
      He should be applauded for paying attention.

      The voters who deserve ridicule are Paul Zeise, John McNamara and Roger Clarkson. Those three guys all have Miami outside of the top 20. That's ridiculous. (Speaking of Clarkson, he's also one of just three voters who didn't rank Wichita State at all. But he did rank Creightoneven though Creighton has fewer wins than Wichita State and more losses than Wichita State, including a loss to Wichita State. That's kind of ridiculous, too.)"


      http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...-miami-at-no-5
      "Valley-shaking, nation-waking 29-game win streak." - Paul Suellentrop, The Wichita Eagle

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      • Originally posted by GoShockers89 View Post
        Gary Parrish has our backs in the Poll Attacks:

        http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...-miami-at-no-5

        Nice!

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        • Speaking of KU. Watching KU versus WVU. Ugly game, uglier Jayhawk uniforms. Looks like they stuck the number and names on but they all fell off. All you have left is the glue.
          Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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          • Originally posted by wusphlash View Post
            Speaking of KU. Watching KU versus WVU. Ugly game, uglier Jayhawk uniforms. Looks like they stuck the number and names on but they all fell off. All you have left is the glue.
            I know KU loves them some defense. But how freaking awful is the Big 12 this year? I honestly believe WSU could contend for first.
            "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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            • Matt Norlander and Jeff Borzello crusifying KU's uniforms on Twitter.
              Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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              • Originally posted by wusphlash View Post
                Matt Norlander and Jeff Borzello crusifying KU's uniforms on Twitter.
                and Andy Glockner. They are baaaaad.
                The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                • #32 - Pittsburgh lost at #12- Louisville

                  Note: Would have been better for the Shockers if Louisville had lost, however, I am okay with their win as Pittsburgh was starting to get a little press. We need those behind us to lose as well.

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                  • I kind of hate to say this, because it might sound like bragging or arrogance, but...

                    If Ellis picked a college based on where he could get the most playing time as a Fr, he made the right choice.
                    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                    • For fun, I looked up the highest AP ranking our MVC peers have achieved:

                      All-time

                      Bradley- #1 (1949-50, 1950-51)
                      Creighton- #10 (2002-03)
                      Drake- #7 (1970-71)
                      Evansville- N/A
                      Illinois State- #13 (1977-78)
                      Indiana State- #1 (1978-79)
                      Missouri State- N/A
                      Northern Iowa-#19 (2009-10)
                      Southern Illinois- #11 (2006-07)
                      Wichita State- #1 (1964-65)


                      Modern Era (arbitrarily defined starting after the Bird/Magic championship season)

                      Bradley- #9 (1985-86)
                      Creighton- #10 (2002-03)
                      Drake- #14 (2007-08)
                      Evansville- N/A
                      Illinois State- #16 (1982-83)
                      Indiana State- N/A
                      Missouri State- N/A
                      Northern Iowa- #19 (2009-10)
                      Southern Illinois- #11 (2006-07)
                      Wichita State- #2 (1981-82)


                      The highest that the Shockers have climbed in the AP Poll during the Modern Era (as described above):

                      1980-81- #14
                      1981-82- #2
                      1982-83- #11
                      1983-84- #14
                      2006-07- #8
                      2011-12- #15
                      2012-13- #15 (so far)

                      The highest we climbed in seasons before the Modern Era:

                      1953-54- #11
                      1954-55- #14
                      1957-58- #17
                      1960-61- #16
                      1961-62- #8
                      1962-63- #5
                      1963-64- #4
                      1964-65- #1
                      1965-66- #8

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                      • And if you go even more recent, starting at 2000 you have:

                        More Modern Era

                        Bradley- #9 N/A
                        Creighton- #10 (2002-03)
                        Drake- #14 (2007-08)
                        Evansville- N/A
                        Illinois State- #16 N/A
                        Indiana State- N/A
                        Missouri State- N/A
                        Northern Iowa- #19 (2009-10)
                        Southern Illinois- #11 (2006-07)
                        Wichita State- #8 (2006-07)


                        So Wichita State has had the Highest Ranking overall (#1 with Bradley and Il State), the highest ranking since 1980 (#2), and the highest ranking since 2000 (#8).

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                        • Not to be confused with dishing out love for Missouri State, but that surprises me they've never been ranked in the AP. Even when they made their deep run in the NCAAs under Steve Alford more than a decade ago? Does that include as Southwest Missouri?

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                          • Originally posted by SPEShockAlum View Post
                            Not to be confused with dishing out love for Missouri State, but that surprises me they've never been ranked in the AP. Even when they made their deep run in the NCAAs under Steve Alford more than a decade ago? Does that include as Southwest Missouri?
                            Yep, it includes all 31 glorious years of D-1 basketball at SwoMo/MSU.

                            The Alford Sweet Sixteen year was when they squeaked in as a 12 seed. IIRC some of the Spoonhour teams in the late 80s/early 90s got pretty close, especially when they were in the old MCC.

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                            • Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                              I kind of hate to say this, because it might sound like bragging or arrogance, but...

                              If Ellis picked a college based on where he could get the most playing time as a Fr, he made the right choice.
                              He would have seen the court. I have no doubt in my mind about that. And PT is variable from game to game it seems. We definitely could have used another post player a few weeks ago though.

                              I believe you are right in your thoughts.

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                              • SMS/MSU was ranked in the final, post-tournament poll after their Sweet 16 run in 1998 or 99.

                                WSU was ranked in the same poll after the 2006 tournament.

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